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Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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They aren't durable in my experience though. Although most apple cords have issues with the connection "neck" (not sure of the actual nomenclature).

Is "strain relief" the nomenclature you're looking for?

More like the lack thereof... Apple seems to really go for form-over-function on those, and it's been like that for a long time.

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4A Review from Marques https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlHnleQU9tQ

I love his reviews. Notable quirk in this review: around 5:10 where he starts talking about how usable the software is, he also makes an erroneous gesture with his thumb and has to do it again. This is my experience with the Pixel 3a. The gestures require a range of motion that my thumb just does not have. This isn't going to be any better with the 4a, which is even bigger than the 3a.

I disagree - MKBHD has gone downhill and has really surface level reviews these days. He pays more attention to how the video looks instead of the actual content itself. Plus questionable associated with OnePlus.

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As an Australian with a Pixel XL which is still perfectly usable, just lacking 'support': > ... it’s fascinating that the most important detail is the price: $349. Local pricing on google store is A$599, despite US$349 ~= A$490. So not quite the same bargain for us, though not hugely surprising. > ... it’s worth remembering that technically, fall ends on December 21st this year. Living in a country with only a dozen…

I think at this point it's just sloppy to use '$' by itself in any potentially-international context. I've worked for multiple companies where most of my colleagues consistently brushed this off. In each company, there was at least one significant budgeting stuff-up while I was there because someone interpreted a '$' number as the wrong kind of dollar. In the worst case I witnessed the "bill shock" was about 50 thous…

> I think at this point it's just sloppy to use '$' by itself in any potentially-international context.

Totally. It should, of course, have said:

"0.0307227 BTC, as of 2020-08-04 01:31 UTC based on an average of the top 4 crypto exchanges"

;-)

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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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I broke the shopping cart by adding two pixel 4a devices + care plans, 1 with a trade-in. Now going to store.google.com/cart returns 500 errors (Error code: TIMM) and support is non-existent. Store chat and phone support look like they don't exist. Off to a great start!

> going to store.google.com/cart returns 500 errors (Error code: TIMM) and support is non-existent

:shocked face:

(I think that maybe store.google.com is somebody's 20% time project, and they just haven't announced it's shutdown yet...)

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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$349 for a phone that will get full OS updates for 3 years works out to $9.69 per month. That's pretty solid. The competing Apple variant (lower res HDish screen but much faster CPU) is the iPhone SE 128GB for $449. It will probably get OS updates for 5 years which works out to $7.48 per month.

All these comparisons are misleading. I call "budget" the phone I bought for my mother for less than $100 (an Asus, for the matter) or the $150 Asus I bought for my father, you call "budget" phones in the $350-450 range that I would call mid-range. We may be both right, I guess.

Those budget phones are generally insecure from day one (many months out of date on security patches) and often never get security patches at all.

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This is an awesome phone at $350. I currently have the Pixel 4, but if this was available when I was making my purchase decision, I'd probably have gone with it. That said, the Pixel line of phones isn't known for having long lasting battery. A feature that I've found to be indispensable is wireless charging. I just rest my Pixel 4 on a vertical charging base throughout the day. Otherwise, I'd have to have to constan…

I bought a Pixel 3A a few months ago and my battery lasts 2 days without charging it. I use it for regular browsing, Instagram, twitter, and it is constantly using networks because I have Whatsapp always on on my computer.

Yep, I bought a Pixel 3A when it first came out and I'm still consistently getting 2+ days battery with every charge. It's honestly amazing to not have to worry about batteries anymore; whenever it gets low I just charge for 15-30 minutes back up to 75% and I'm good to go for at least a day (repeat ad infinitum).

It's a perfect encapsulation of why I just can't wrap my head around phones without a headphone jack. Why would you want to worry about managing battery levels on more devices? Going from 1-->0 is the dream and I don't think I'd ever upgrade to a phone where I have to worry about battery again, let alone a phone where I have to worry about two batteries.

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This has gotten _a lot_ better since Google started contractually requiring OEMs to provide regular updates. My Galaxy S8, purchased through a carrier, is still receiving security updates (although probably not for much longer).

Security updates are nice but they all stop receiving new versions of Android way too soon. There's really no reason for this mostly. I mean some of the features in new versions of Android might require certain hardware like an onboard TPU, for instance, but mostly those versions of Android would work just fine on older phones.

Compared to what? Any other brand I never expect an upgrade. Even when they promise one. What it ships with is what it has forever.

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$349 for a phone that will get full OS updates for 3 years works out to $9.69 per month. That's pretty solid. The competing Apple variant (lower res HDish screen but much faster CPU) is the iPhone SE 128GB for $449. It will probably get OS updates for 5 years which works out to $7.48 per month.

Bought my son a Nokia 5.3 for 180 euros, completely surprised by how well it works. If I had to buy my own phone (currently have a company iPhone 11) I would seriously consider the Nokia 5.3 for myself.

How frequently do you get updates? My friends have gotten cheap Android phones in the past and updates were abysmal.

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I've been wondering for years what the hell people were doing with their phones to make them run out of battery in a day. I can't remember the last time any phone I've had got below 50% on a day with normal usage. I guess people play a lot of mobile games?

I think it _very_ heavily depends on what apps you have installed and how much they do in the background (especially while you have the screen off). Similarly, screen time plays a huge role (e.g. someone with 2 hours a day vs 4 hours a day).

Yeah, I think it's mostly screen time. Someone getting 2 days out of a 3a isn't using it 6 hours a day. But some people do.
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