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Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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You mean, like those things ? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0832JRZZK

I'd prefer one made by Google that just matches the phone and the curvature of the end. I don't know why I was downvoted...but some people don't need the headphone jack, but still want a reasonably priced phone. A simple fix is to just sell a plug that matches the phone.

How bout a case that doesn't have an opening for the hole.

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A bit sad and amusing that a physical jack is actually considered a feature now... what's next, removable battery? Expandable storage?

no one claimed it was a feature. it has a jack, some phones don't, so they state it does. this does not mean 'feature.' it's a part of the spec, so they list it. it's not sad or bad or good -it just is. for me, i want just usb-c, and no headphone port is a plus. same for sd card, same for removable battery. i thought all of those were important to me, until i realized i haven't actually used any of this in 10 years.…

It's a feature, just one you're apparently not interested in.

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Has Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...

I was briefly considering buying an iphone for the first time ever, since I wanted a good camera phone. Scratched that idea when I learned that it didn't have an audio jack.

I ended up making this jump.

What I've found works best for me:

- In the car I have a Bluetooth audio adapter for the aux in my older car. Works great.

- In my backpack I have a pocket where I always leave a headphone adapter. I always put it back if I use it.

- Bluetooth to Aux adapter with a small battery. Costs like $20 on Amazon and also lives in my backpack. Has saved my ass many times.

Beyond that, I just own more Bluetooth headphones and I keep a few space headphone adapters attached to headphones I use occasionally.

It sucks to spend $50 on adapters and another $40 on Bluetooth adapters. But it is very usable now and I don't ever "miss" my headphone jack now that I have the proper infrastructure setup.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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This is an awesome phone at $350. I currently have the Pixel 4, but if this was available when I was making my purchase decision, I'd probably have gone with it. That said, the Pixel line of phones isn't known for having long lasting battery. A feature that I've found to be indispensable is wireless charging. I just rest my Pixel 4 on a vertical charging base throughout the day. Otherwise, I'd have to have to constan…

> the Pixel line of phones isn't known for having long lasting battery Anecdote: I still have a 2XL and it can get me through 24 hours. It's gotten a _little_ worse recently which I attribute to hardware age. The camera is fantastic, so I have no need to upgrade (although having stereo speakers would be nice.)

The Pixel 2XL does have stereo front facing speakers...

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Always seemed weird that they didn't continue a Nexus series below the Pixel. Those had a good reputation as solid phones, whereas the Pixels didn't seem worth the money - and probably got anchored as that in peoples mind, even when their prices fall.

> Always seemed weird that they didn't continue a Nexus series below the Pixel. That was weird, but the criticism obviously stuck -- the #a series is a continuation of the Nexus series.

I mean, I haven't been in the market for a new phone recently, but I didn't even know those existed, while still remembering lots of people said good things about their Nexus'. Branding failure IMHO

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Sadly, 3 years of updates is really above and beyond in the Android world. Many get 2 years but most are abandoned even earlier.

This has gotten _a lot_ better since Google started contractually requiring OEMs to provide regular updates. My Galaxy S8, purchased through a carrier, is still receiving security updates (although probably not for much longer).

Security updates are nice but they all stop receiving new versions of Android way too soon. There's really no reason for this mostly. I mean some of the features in new versions of Android might require certain hardware like an onboard TPU, for instance, but mostly those versions of Android would work just fine on older phones.

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I know lots of people will be really happy with this, but I probably would have traded the jack for water resistance

Yeah do people really use their headphone jack? Most everyone that I know in my circle uses bluetooth headphones now. Some of them are quite good...maybe not audiophile level, but if I wanted to be an audiophile, I would listen on a proper AV receiver with an amp.

So, pre-covid, when I used headphones more, I used the jack a lot because I'm just awful at keeping devices charged.

I also have saved many a social music situation when someone was having bluetooth pairing issues and I just busted out my aux cable, plugged and and blammo the party has music. I'm an IT guy, could I have fixed the bluetooth pairing? Probably. But not quicker than just plugging in.

So we're out there, THERE ARE DOZENS OF US! :)

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Bit confused as to why mtgx's comment has been voted into oblivion, as it's a legitimate complaint with the Pixel line. My girlfriend has a 3a and it has taken about 3 months for the battery life to start being a minor issue; i.e. she makes sure to charge it during the day if she has somewhere to be in the evening. It's really the only complaint I have about an otherwise good phone, and it doesn't look like the 4a re…

The Pixel 4a battery is bigger than that of the Pixel 4, and it has a much less energy intensive screen. I think it would be enough for most regular phone users that the Pixel 4a targets.

It's pretty absurd that their cheaper offering for the same major version of the hardware has both better battery life and a headphone jack. Both of those things are way more important to most people than a fancy camera or pointless machine learning features.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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As an Australian with a Pixel XL which is still perfectly usable, just lacking 'support':

> ... it’s fascinating that the most important detail is the price: $349.

Local pricing on google store is A$599, despite US$349 ~= A$490.

So not quite the same bargain for us, though not hugely surprising.

> ... it’s worth remembering that technically, fall ends on December 21st this year.

Living in a country with only a dozen or so native (only only mildly) deciduous trees, but a surfeit of eucalyptus that drop dangerously large branches, leaves, and bark all year long -- we don't call autumn fall, just autumn. And it runs 1st March to 31st May. Which adds some mental gymnastics on top of the corporate hermeneutics when dealing with these announcements.

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I can only hope they will revisit face unlock in the era of face masks. I greatly prefered fingerprint unlock. I treat either of these as tamper resistance rather than actual security, but I find fingerprint unlock to be a much better experience.

For anyone wondering: Pixel 3 had a fingerprint sensor for unlocking the screen, but Pixel 4 removed it and replaced it with a face unlock. Regardless of whether face unlock works - sometimes it's inconvenient to position yourself for it (e.g. if you have bags in your hand, are driving, browsing/reading with phone on a surface, in bed, etc). Some skipped Pixel 4 due to removing it. They considered fingerprint reading…

Yeap, I am not going to buy pixel 5 if it does have that weird fingerprint reader behind it.

Best scenario for me is having fingerprint reader under the screen.

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