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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#91

One of the biggest reasons I'm happy with the increasing competition in the budget segments is that they're starting to make the 'right' sacrifices, slightly negating the distinctive features and advantages of flagship phones. Flagship phones will either have to adapt (introducing more useful features and not extra camera-bloat), or people will just keep buying the cheaper ones.

350 dollars is "budget"?

Yes. The Pixel 4's launch price was $800 for the basic configuration, the S10 launched at $900, and the iPhone 11 (which is actually more mid-range in Apple's lineup than "flagship") launched at $700.

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#92
post #30

I can only hope they will revisit face unlock in the era of face masks. I greatly prefered fingerprint unlock. I treat either of these as tamper resistance rather than actual security, but I find fingerprint unlock to be a much better experience.

FaceID is terrible when driving. I often have my passenger read and send texts for me, on my iPhone 6S I just had to grab the phone and put my thumb on it. With my iPhone 11, I need to lift it up in front of my wheel, and look directly at it instead of the road, because if you aren't looking at it then it won't unlock.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#93

One of the biggest reasons I'm happy with the increasing competition in the budget segments is that they're starting to make the 'right' sacrifices, slightly negating the distinctive features and advantages of flagship phones. Flagship phones will either have to adapt (introducing more useful features and not extra camera-bloat), or people will just keep buying the cheaper ones.

350 dollars is "budget"?

For a device that keeps you in touch with the world while providing quality camera features and music capabilities for 2 years or more, yeah, $350 is a fine price.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#94

One of the biggest reasons I'm happy with the increasing competition in the budget segments is that they're starting to make the 'right' sacrifices, slightly negating the distinctive features and advantages of flagship phones. Flagship phones will either have to adapt (introducing more useful features and not extra camera-bloat), or people will just keep buying the cheaper ones.

350 dollars is "budget"?

Absolutely. My phone pays for itself many times over. I don't even consider the cost these days.

It's more valuable than my car (to me).

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#95
post #5

I held on to an old 5x for what felt like forever until the 3a came around. I've zero interest in the high end phone market, I'm sort of horrified at 6, 7, $800+ the prices, and I feel like I use fewer and fewer apps all the time. Hopefully google with the 'a' models and Apple with the SE will stick with the mid range products.

Relatively lucky of you to have a 5X that lasted that long: mine succumbed long ago to the "boot loop" issue, apparently due to soldering issues endemic among 5X phones.

It was the best phone I ever had... until the boot loop.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#96

Does the 4a still disable the USBC video-out? I've wanted to use that feature a few times in the last few years and I'm bummed that the Pixel line hasn't supported it.

Yeah, I have to say, USBC video out sounds like a gimmick until it isn't. I completely ignored it in choosing a phone but it has saved my butt countless times now. Usually the way it happens is that the computer intended for playing a movie/show/presentation/etc has a problem, lacks a cable, etc. Then I spot a USBC to HDMI dongle (basically everyone with a new Mac or recent ultrabook has some kind of USBC dongle) and bam, you're golden.

I wouldn't get a phone without it.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#97
post #76

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Only 3 years of updates? I've had some version of an iPhone since the 3 and have considered giving Android a go, but that's a big downside if true.

Sadly, 3 years of updates is really above and beyond in the Android world. Many get 2 years but most are abandoned even earlier.

This has gotten _a lot_ better since Google started contractually requiring OEMs to provide regular updates. My Galaxy S8, purchased through a carrier, is still receiving security updates (although probably not for much longer).

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#98
post #6

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I guess that they have a conflict of interest in supporting it, due to Chromecast.

That seems so backwards if truly a factor. The Chromecast should make things easier for people who don't want to bother with cords, not prevent people from using cords if they really want/need it.

Chromecast was also their excuse for disabling Miracast back in the day.. :/

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#99
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Relatively lucky of you to have a 5X that lasted that long: mine succumbed long ago to the "boot loop" issue, apparently due to soldering issues endemic among 5X phones.

It was the best phone I ever had... until the boot loop.

i keep buying them new/old stock for $100 on ebay.. they last a year or more -- just a little slow sometimes. i have one more in my desk drawer and i might upgrade after that one.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#100
post #43

Sadly enough, still only available in a few countries. :(

And not even at the same time:

> Australia (September 10), Canada (September 10), France (September 10), Germany, India (October), Ireland, Italy, Japan (August 20), Singapore, Spain, Taiwan, United Kingdom, and United States.

Ten years after the first Nexus, Google still doesn't know how to sell hardware.

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