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Post by hakka-nyu-su » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:11 PM UTC

zbrozek wrote: post #228

theseadroid wrote: post #207

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maybe. I've lived in Europe for a bit and it's a bit better but not to the point I feel safe everywhere during the night in cities(but at least I dont live in fear of getting hit by cars that much). And other than China I've mentioned I feel safe during night in Japan, Taiwan, or Singapore. Again I'm not sourcing any data here because it's just my personal experience of whether I'd feel safe in cities during night.

I'm often curious what makes someone feel safe or not. I've never felt unsafe wandering around (including in lots of "sketchy" places), but I suspect a lot of that is an accident of my genetics. I just don't look like an easy person to victimize.

The sense of social solidarity versus atomization plays a part, for me. Do I feel like my neighbors will look out for me or do I feel this is a "no snitching, mind your own business" culture?

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Post by doteka » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:13 PM UTC

MagnumOpus wrote: post #287

magicsmoke wrote: post #250

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Not sure how much of that is political rights, and how much of it is just less competitive pressure abroad because of lower population. Easier to get into colleges and find jobs. Might want to ask and confirm.

> less competitive pressure abroad Or in other words, better quality of life? Yes, you can drive a new beemer, have a house with a pool and and 3 holidays abroad every year in China too -- if you are the one in a hundred to win the job lottery and work 60 hours a week not to get sacked (or if your daddy is a CCP aristocrat). In the US/Western Europe/Japan at least half the people can affort that upper-middle class li…

Never thought I would type these words but if you think half the people in any place can manage an upper middle class lifestyle, you need to check both your statistics and your privilege.

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Post by htfu » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 1:33 PM UTC

JesusIsKing wrote: post #288

racl101 wrote: post #115

This is why I'm not hot on big corporations virtue signalling to us consumers. It seems that they all have moral, entanglements (to borrow Jada Pinkett's parlance), with China that they cannot seem to reconcile. But they want to lecture us about important cause du jour? Please! Spare me the self righteousness.

IIRC McDonalds banned black people in China, however they virtue signal about BLM in the USA. https://heavy.com/news/2020/04/mcdonalds-bans-black-people-c... Coke Cola used to be pretty pro Nazi back in the 1930s. https://www.adbranch.com/coca-cola-ads-in-nazi-germany/ Corporations don't care about anything other than keeping the money coming in. So they will support any cause as long as it seems trendy.

> Corporations don't care about anything other than keeping the money coming in. So they will support any cause as long as it seems trendy.

Fair enough. But next time either read your own links or get better at obfuscating. Neither of them says what you imply.

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 3:01 PM UTC

doteka wrote: post #292

MagnumOpus wrote: post #287

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> less competitive pressure abroad Or in other words, better quality of life? Yes, you can drive a new beemer, have a house with a pool and and 3 holidays abroad every year in China too -- if you are the one in a hundred to win the job lottery and work 60 hours a week not to get sacked (or if your daddy is a CCP aristocrat). In the US/Western Europe/Japan at least half the people can affort that upper-middle class li…

Never thought I would type these words but if you think half the people in any place can manage an upper middle class lifestyle, you need to check both your statistics and your privilege.

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Post by ASalazarMX » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 4:08 PM UTC

hatsunearu wrote: post #249

ASalazarMX wrote: post #245

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> A few examples of excellence that are still available to Chinese citizens are the NBA, Apple products, US education and Tesla cars. I disagree on NBA (sportsmen are not a sign of overall excellence in a country), and Apple (high-end Huawei phones are ridiculously more advanced than apple in hardware terms). USA Education still has a great reputation, and most Musk enterprises are awesome and inspiring.

>high-end Huawei phones are ridiculously more advanced than apple in hardware terms Source on this? Doesn't seem like it...

I had a Huawei Mate 20X, back when apple still did single-camera flagships. Compared to my wife's iPhone XS Max, it beat it in many hardware metrics:

- Bigger screen

- More RAM

- 50% bigger battery

- 3 high quality cameras, with night mode and macro zoom (2020 iPhone still can't do macro, and night mode is improvable)

The iPhone still came ahead in overall performance, and the newer iPhones have addressed some of these disadvantages, at the cost of losing features like the fingerprint reader (Mate 20X had it in the back, very comfortable to use). Mate had face unlock, but it was 2D, not the more secure 3D map the iPhone does.

Specs here:

- https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_xs_max-9319.php

- https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_20_x-9369.php

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Post by JesusIsKing » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 4:20 PM UTC

htfu wrote: post #293

JesusIsKing wrote: post #288

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IIRC McDonalds banned black people in China, however they virtue signal about BLM in the USA. https://heavy.com/news/2020/04/mcdonalds-bans-black-people-c... Coke Cola used to be pretty pro Nazi back in the 1930s. https://www.adbranch.com/coca-cola-ads-in-nazi-germany/ Corporations don't care about anything other than keeping the money coming in. So they will support any cause as long as it seems trendy.

> Corporations don't care about anything other than keeping the money coming in. So they will support any cause as long as it seems trendy. Fair enough. But next time either read your own links or get better at obfuscating. Neither of them says what you imply.

Fair enough on the first one as I was guilty of reading the headlines.

> Athletic competition was a Nazi ideal and the Coca-Cola GmbH cashed in heavily on this infatuation by becoming one of the biggest sponsors of sports events, most notably the annual Deutschlandrundfahrt (National Bycicle Championships) and the Soccer Cup.

The second is fine.

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Post by RealStickman_ » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 5:04 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #62

ezluckyfree wrote: post #6

This shouldn't be surprising to people. The NBA has a bigger fanbase in China than in the USA. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-09/china-s-5...

The business value for a nation of fans = (Number of fans) x (avg profitability per fan) x (probability of losing fan over political decision) I would argue that while US fans are more profitable in aggregate (first two terms) the reason the NBA sides with China is due to the 3rd term. Chinese fans are vastly more sensitive to perceived "anti-Chinese" policies, whereas most US fans don't care one way or the other. Th…

I'd argue that the chinese fans might not be the problem. Their government would be since they can just ban the NBA for their "anti-Chinese" stance.

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Post by mthoms » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

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I'd never heard of this brand so I had a look. I'm not sure where you got 25-30 dollars from. The average seems somewhere around $10-15/pair. https://bombas.com/collections/mens-ankle-socks And those cheap white 100% cotton socks you mention are not at all warm (especially when wet), durable or odor resistant. The company claims to donate socks that are at least as good as the ones you purchased, if not better. https…

100 pair of clean white dry socks to hand out to the many homeless is so much better than one branded pair with better quality. If you are able to give one homeless person 100 pairs it makes a bigger difference because washing fancy socks isn't possible and they can add additional socks for layers.

I get the point you're trying make but as someone who knows a bit about the fabric technologies involved, I can tell you that your logic is flawed.

Two pairs of durable, anti-microbial, quick-drying, warm-when-damp socks is worth more than 100 cotton tube socks in outdoor scenarios. 100% cotton socks are garbage for anything but the shortest term (1-day) outdoor use. They lose all insulating properties when wet/damp, are impossible to dry, they stink, they aren't durable, and they will lead to blisters.

The wetness (either via sweat or environmental conditions) is the most important thing. It can lead to very serious health problems. In WW1 hundreds of thousands died from "swamp foot".

There's a reason the US military (well, every military in the world) does not issue cotton socks despite them being the most affordable — They are absolute garbage for long term outdoor use.

You might be interested in this article and video I found. The socks Bombas donates to shelters aren't "fancy", they are specifically engineered for their purpose.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90262183/10-million-homeless-peo...

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Post by mthoms » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 5:16 PM UTC

mthoms wrote: post #298

wolco wrote: post #216

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100 pair of clean white dry socks to hand out to the many homeless is so much better than one branded pair with better quality. If you are able to give one homeless person 100 pairs it makes a bigger difference because washing fancy socks isn't possible and they can add additional socks for layers.

I get the point you're trying make but as someone who knows a bit about the fabric technologies involved, I can tell you that your logic is flawed. Two pairs of durable, anti-microbial, quick-drying, warm-when-damp socks is worth more than 100 cotton tube socks in outdoor scenarios. 100% cotton socks are garbage for anything but the shortest term (1-day) outdoor use. They lose all insulating properties when wet/damp,…

If you're interested in the technology aspect, this is also very good:

https://www.good.is/articles/bombas-socks-for-homeless-peopl...

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Post by blaser-waffle » Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 5:48 PM UTC

haram_masala wrote: post #153

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Half joke/half serious: 1. Food(any objection?) 2. Public transportation: high speed rail road 3. Huge and fancy malls: USA is behind believe it or not 4. E-payment & WeChat: Chinese people think differently. 5. Food delivery and all kinds of half-day delivery 6. Free of Racism: invisible ceiling 7. Cultural recreational activities that you don’t understand 8. Crowded.

As a (former?) frequent traveller, I can tell you this is first time I've ever heard China described as "free of racism."

Yeah in my experience Asia is racist as shit -- and they're willing to blunt about it.

But it's usually in a different language and doesn't involve the standard White-vs.-Non-White narrative, so it doesn't show up in the global discourse.