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What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by jyriand »

omertuchfeld wrote: post #87
kioleanu wrote: post #74

I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

Gmail has great keyboard support. Just press ? And see for yourself. Used with https://github.com/jiahaog/nativefier I find it to be a great client

You don’t need electron app. Chrome has built in support for creating apps from webpages. Tools->more tools->create shortcut and it will save the shortcut into your apps folder.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by lesquivemeau »

j1elo wrote: post #129

I had an IMAP account that, when deleted from the server (the company closed and closed their GSuite accounts), was rendered impossible to access from TB. But afaik the emails where there, given the space that the TB folder occupied on the hard disk. I saw some conversations about how if you want to have a local copy of emails and be sure that server errors (or server dissappearance, as it was the case) won't affect…

If it's an absolute priority, in the future you can consider using POP

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by remus »

kioleanu wrote: post #74

I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

I'd be interested to know which bits of gmail are slow for you. My personal experience is that it's so fast as to be unnoticeable in the things I do day to day (writing, searching, labeling, moving emails around etc.)

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by dijksterhuis »

kioleanu wrote: post #74

I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

Out of interest are you hooked up to an Exchange account or IMAP? Exchange email accounts are the bane of my email set up at the moment.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by flas9sd »

bzb3 wrote: post #82
jsilence wrote: post #50

I really wish TB would store mails in Maildir by default and operate on that storage according to the standard so that the local mailstore becomes compatible with other mail clients. Right now one can manually switch the storage to maildir, but it is not safe to use that storage with other maildir compatible software.

Isn't Maildir too wasteful?

for personal mail the advantage in Maildir is incremental backups acting on the file system level are efficient. With an mbox file or sqlite db the whole file has to be backuped and transfered again. Of course for backup/snapshot mechanisms working on the block level one big file does not matter.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by Krasnol »

berkes wrote: post #84

I keep swinging between dislike and acceptance with Thunderbird. It feels old, clunky and cludgy. And not in a good way (the way Vim is old, but still marvellous, or mutt is cludgy but still Just Works Everywhere). The UI feels horribly out of place (on my vanilla Ubuntu), the UX is terribly inconsistent and after -I think- 10+ years of using it, I still have to search where to find stuff. Daily. I've been comparing…

I guess it's a taste thing.

I love the UI and I hope they never make any significant changes to it.

It does have many features and therefore you have to operate them if you need them. If you don't, you don't. I don't understand how they "hurt" you when you can't even see them.

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by 7kay »

beagle3 wrote: post #126
kioleanu wrote: post #74

I've started using Thunderbird again after months of trying literally every other solution on the market. I wanted to switch from Outlook and Gmail to something that is fast, has good keyboard support and a good message editor. It's incredible how slow most of the email clients on the market are. What's even more incredible is that, apart from Outlook, none of the other clients offer a good way of editing tables prop…

How did you get gmail style search?

I know of expression-search(https://github.com/wangvisual/expression-search) but it is not supported in recent versions of Thunderbird. I'd be interested as well as I've been longing for a proper keyboard UI. For quickly switching folders there is Nostalgy(https://github.com/nostalgy/nostalgy).

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by bzb3 »

edwintorok wrote: post #139
raxxorrax wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great to see a headline like this again. But even if you had frozen Thunderbird how it was, it would still beat other mail solutions. I can live with Outlook/Exchange in my corporate environment, but it still cannot compete.

Gnome's Evolution is quite good as well and the built-in exchange support for both email and calendar via EWS works better than the thunderbird plugin. I used to use thunderbird, but after several troubles with the exchange plugin (e.g. meetings on Fridays disappearing) and calendar not working properly I switched to Evolution where it just works.

But there's no Evolution for Windows, is there?

Re: What’s New in Thunderbird 78

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Post by kioleanu »

7kay wrote: post #148
beagle3 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you get gmail style search?

I know of expression-search( https://github.com/wangvisual/expression-search ) but it is not supported in recent versions of Thunderbird. I'd be interested as well as I've been longing for a proper keyboard UI. For quickly switching folders there is Nostalgy( https://github.com/nostalgy/nostalgy ).

Yes, expression search. It works with TB > 68 with a little bit of tweaking. The details are in the top issues
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