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Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by _8j50 »

LunaSea wrote: post #120
_8j50 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I remember seeing your reply, I didn't want to provide contact info on a public forum, and I have developed a severe allergy to email. I am very intetested in paying for the product you linked, so long as I don't need email. I will support your product, even with imperfections so long as you remain attentive to your user's needs (hopefully being a paid product helps in that area) And for anyone else reading, I b…

In places like the European Union, it is illegal for example to provide subscription payments without notifying customers before payment renewal (which requires an email address).

You can notify without email though. If the patform itself is communication related they can send you in-app message.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by rglullis »

staz wrote: post #139
_8j50 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I remember seeing your reply, I didn't want to provide contact info on a public forum, and I have developed a severe allergy to email. I am very intetested in paying for the product you linked, so long as I don't need email. I will support your product, even with imperfections so long as you remain attentive to your user's needs (hopefully being a paid product helps in that area) And for anyone else reading, I b…

The infamous goal post moving. rglullis, I'm also interested to pay you tons of money. sadly I will only pay for service powered by unicorn's farts and looks like your isn't. When do you think you can arrange that, I literally have my magical credit card in my hand?

I didn't see it as goal-post move, rather a reaffirmation of a previous conversation we had. He did say before that he does not want to provide email to sign up and that he wants to pay with crypto. Both these things were already on my roadmap.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by lrvick »

echelon wrote: post #19

Speaking of names, I'm upset that the username I go by is taken. I'm echelon @ { gmail, HN, Twitter, Github, Gitlab, Square Cash, etc }, but found Riot / Matrix just a few months too late to get my username. I'm not satisfied with the "just stand up your own server" response as an alternative. I know it's cutting off my nose, but I've avoided using it because of this. I'm OCD about stupid usernames. I wish unused use…

echelon on IRC/Matrix and other open source mediums is a friend of mine. It is very much not an unused name.

It sounds like he registered the name on open source platforms and you used it on closed ones.

Interesting seeing worlds collide. One of you is going to need to change :)

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by rvnx »

rplnt wrote: post #97
_8j50 wrote: post #85

No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Signal and Telegram are more obvious, yes, but it's not like unrelated or unique names couldn't work. Slack comes to mind. Or, I seek you?

Slack is an absolutely horrible name, especially for work-related purposes; it doesn't reflect messaging but laziness and productivity waste.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by twelvechairs »

Arathorn wrote: post #121
_8j50 wrote: post #85

No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

I think "let's chat on Element" has an awesome ring to it, personally :D

"I know I have Adobe Elements installed somewhere but I never knew it was a chat app"

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by [deleted] »

srg0 wrote: post #44
dividedbyzero wrote: post #15

That's been long overdue and will hopefully help Matrix make inroads into more conservative organizations; I believe the tech is really promising. It's a definite liability, trying to introduce people to Matrix, when the de-facto default client's name evokes all kinds of unhelpful associations – it doesn't sound like work at all and it does sound like gamers, toys, apparently even like a far-left political organisati…

looking at you, git

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Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by Arathorn »

paulie_a wrote: post #138
_8j50 wrote: post #85

No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it. The hardest problem in computer science strikes again! Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans…

Dozens of users will be effected by this

meanwhile, elsewhere on HN... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23842137

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by account42 »

gregoriol wrote: post #112
_8j50 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May I ask if you are a native english user and what country? Perhaps the branding works for EU markets? Element has nothing to do with messaging. In my example,signal has something to do with communication(signaling),telegram is obvious, whatsapp is what you say when you talk to someone like 'hello'(what is up?). Element sounds like something I hear about in a chemistry class. It also has to be catchy. At least Riot…

Does "whatsapp" sound like messaging? or "Skype"? or "Slack"? or "IRC"?

IRC = internet relay chat

chat does sound like messaging

Skype sounds like a made up word. Nothing wrong with that.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by lrvick »

Love the name. Simple, and is going to be pretty hard for society to attach negative connotations to it.

Elements are the flexible foundation of everything and in turn Element can be a flexible foundation for communication.

At the end of the day it boils down to getting control of a namespace and then owning it over time.

Slack and Apple have clearly shown this works just fine.

Re: Riot is now Element

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Post by staz »

rglullis wrote: post #142
staz wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The infamous goal post moving. rglullis, I'm also interested to pay you tons of money. sadly I will only pay for service powered by unicorn's farts and looks like your isn't. When do you think you can arrange that, I literally have my magical credit card in my hand?

I didn't see it as goal-post move, rather a reaffirmation of a previous conversation we had. He did say before that he does not want to provide email to sign up and that he wants to pay with crypto. Both these things were already on my roadmap.

If it was already discussed I guess that's fine then my bad.

edit: btw in the footer of your site, the links under service s are broken

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