Live data from Hacker News

Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

reuters.com

171–180 of 288 posts

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#172
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main issue anywhere is the foresight and tenacity of the political (ruling) class. They have to do things which are long term by cutting back on short term and populist decisions. That is one thing that is holding even India back. In democratic setup it is very difficult to take a long term view particularly when that comes with short term pain - the govt would be out in next election. Africa should learn both fr…

Just FYI, Africa is not a country. It’s the second largest continent on earth.

achow did not state that Africa was a country. achow stated that Africa should learn from countries. Nothing factually incorrect about suggesting that a continent’s worth of countries could learn something from other countries.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#173
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually I think, the most ideal countries to expand manufacturing to are African countries, they have some of the same advantages once china had. 1. Mineral Resources. 2. Cheap Labour. 3. High Density of Lanthanide and Actinide group minerals. China also has a fourth advantage which is a good mix of Production, Manufacturing and Electronics Engineers. Which Africa doesn't have. On the other hand India doesn't have t…

The main issue anywhere is the foresight and tenacity of the political (ruling) class. They have to do things which are long term by cutting back on short term and populist decisions. That is one thing that is holding even India back. In democratic setup it is very difficult to take a long term view particularly when that comes with short term pain - the govt would be out in next election. Africa should learn both fr…

Actually Africa only has as much coastline as Europe despite being much larger. It has a high proportion of landlocked countries.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#174

> With India’s labour cheaper compared with China, and the gradual expansion of its supplier base here, Apple will be able to use the country as an export hub While there are negatives, I appreciate how globalization of manufacturing helps lift poorer economies (albeit it slowly and not always agreeing with the politics of the newly-built middle classes). One might expect manufacturing in mid-Africa in two decades.

That's was the entire idea of globalized manufacturing for the past fifty years.

Africa however will be much more difficult as a whole. But there are individual countries that will maybe be able to benefit from it some day.

For now, it's more lucrative in most cases to "receive aid" instead of "produce things". In that sense, "aid" has similar effects as natural recourses have.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#176

I wonder if this will be the start of an Exodus of manufacturing away from China. Corporations are constantly under scrutiny with their brand messaging and signaling with respect to various conflicts involving China, Hong Kong and the unrest within the United States. India on the other hand, is a Democratic republic, might help alleviate some issues. If India plays its cards right, they may pave the way for a manufac…

I think this will depend on how much of an ally they are in the future. If they are seen as an economic threat, like Japan in the 80s, the media will probably start to report more on the atrocities committed in Kashmir along with the new Citizenship Law that appears to target or disadvantaged Muslims. Vietnam might he another alternative, but they are also a communist country, so the optics might not be better than C…

Whether Vietnam (to use your example) is communist is irrelevant, in the same way it is in fact that China is nominally communist.

The 'issue' is that China is a big country so can develop to become more powerful than the US and Europe. Vietnam cannot so is not a threat and can be bullied into submission if necessary.

In fact the US is courting Vietnam for this reason and as a regional opponent to China. Clearly the political regime is not important.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#177

I wonder if this will be the start of an Exodus of manufacturing away from China. Corporations are constantly under scrutiny with their brand messaging and signaling with respect to various conflicts involving China, Hong Kong and the unrest within the United States. India on the other hand, is a Democratic republic, might help alleviate some issues. If India plays its cards right, they may pave the way for a manufac…

One of the key reasons for manufacturers to move to India is the massive domestic market. Apple's devices have to be imported into India which attracts an import duty. Minus this tax, Apple's products would be substantially cheaper, which would help it sell a lot more units.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is blatant disinformation by omitting context. The CAA itself is discriminatory, since it does not apply to muslims > The CAA makes it easier for non-Muslims to claim citizenship You see, first of all it's not the Muslims that are literally fighting[1] for their[2] lives[3] and culture[4][5] from crazed zealots in countries around India. And unlike some other religions, the Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists don't ha…

Please become more educated on this issue. Muslims are not a monolithic group, and being a Muslim does not protect you from persecution in Muslim majority countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Shi'ism If the bill was meant to be secular, it could provide asylum for everyone suffering religious persecution, regardless of their religion. It clearly is designed to exclude muslims.

How convenient, why not call for the dissolution of Pakistan so each kind of muslim can have their own country.

Else if Pakistani muslims want to migrate en masse to India, why not return Pakistani land back to India.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#179
post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the bill was meant to be secular, it could provide asylum for everyone suffering religious persecution, regardless of their religion. It clearly is designed to exclude muslims. Here is the document in it's entirety - http://egazette.nic.in/WriteReadData/2019/214646.pdf . Please point out the relevant sections of the document where it is stated that Muslims will not be allowed to apply for asylum or that Muslims…

If the accelerated asylum process does not apply to Muslims (including Rohingyas and Ahmadiyas), why is that not discriminatory? Why is the plight of a Buddhist in Pakistan more urgent than that of a Rohingya in Myanmar?

Ahmadiyas were the founders of Pakistan, and the butcher of non-muslims in Pakistan.

Why would you invite them along with the ones fleeing? It is like inviting the fox into the coop.

Re: Apple supplier Foxconn to invest $1B in India, sources say

#180
post #81

I wonder if this will be the start of an Exodus of manufacturing away from China. Corporations are constantly under scrutiny with their brand messaging and signaling with respect to various conflicts involving China, Hong Kong and the unrest within the United States. India on the other hand, is a Democratic republic, might help alleviate some issues. If India plays its cards right, they may pave the way for a manufac…

There will be no 'exodus of existential consequence'. But there will be a shift away. China is producing a level of design and manufacture that nobody can compete with. Other countries can take on some of the low-end stuff, but there's just a lot they will not be able to do. China has an educated workforce that also works at very low wages, and a government bent on providing the infrastructure necessary to make it al…

Agreed. China's wages have risen steadily to the point that they are substantially higher than the competition (Vietnam, India, etc.). Yet during the same time, their share of global manufacturing has also increased. Low wages are only part of the reason for China's manufacturing dominance. A lot has to do with supply chains, industrial expertise and skilled workforce.
Post reply on HN