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Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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I think this sort of thing reads as absurd in Christian majority cultures mostly because mainstream Christianity does not currently have many restrictions which inconvenience people day to day. Back when it did, they did stuff that was at least as weird; did you know that both beavers and certain types of geese were regionally considered to be fish to get around the no meat on Fridays thing?

> mostly because mainstream Christianity does not currently have many restrictions which inconvenience people day to day. Note however that Islam has similar restrictions but an entirely different way to deal with them (respecting the spirit as well as their letter). My pet theory about the approach of the three main Abrahamic religions to restrictions: 1) Christianity: (loosely) respects the spirit but not the lette…

> 3) Judaism: respects only the letter.

This demonstrates a woeful ignorance of Judaism, and is a common stereotype promulgated by competing religions

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Halakhic Judaism isn't about faith or what God knows. It's about obeying laws ( Halakha [1]) made by people based on a God-given "constitution." Employing "loopholes" is fine -- it means you care about the law and try to obey it, which is the point. Worship is expressed not with faith but in a process of interpreting and creating laws and then following them. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halakha

See also acoup.blog's series on Polytheism ( https://acoup.blog/2019/10/25/collections-practical-polythei... ). It's obviously not a direct analysis of Judaism, but the series discusses the idea of 'orthopraxis' (correct practice) as the relevant concept compared to the idea of 'orthodoxy' (correct belief). The latter, of course, is the central concept of modern Christianity.

> The latter, of course, is the central concept of modern Christianity. //

I'd say that "salvation by faith" is the central concept of Christianity, faith does not require knowledge per se, not in the way that belief requires knowledge.

"Even the devil believes [...]" as the author of the Epistle of James writes.

Christianity as revealed in Scripture is far less about rigid concepts.

On a side-note Catholicism demands significant orthopraxis, but that is heterodox wrt Scripture.

Your supposition requires a form of gnosticism that's really not Christian and is quite contrary to the Gospel IMO, heretical some would say/have said.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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> The no-shabbat-order-processing feels less like "we don't make the machines make money for us" than it feels like "Look, you can shop online, but we're not gonna load it and ship it until we get back from our families." That interpretation doesn't make much sense to me. Unless there's a human actually validating each order individually right as you checkout, you could just have a note saying there won't be any ship…

As someone who works at a 24/7 retail company, I can say that if the orders stop flowing, somebody gets called to fix it (even if nobody's boxing it right then and there). B&H has it set up so that no outage will trigger a pager and I'm betting that if the site went down on Sabbath it would stay down.

Wouldn't one solution to that be by hiring some shabbat goy sysadmins to operate the website infrastructure?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbos_goy

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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post #182

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Just to get pedantic, aren't we all relatives if you go back 1000+ years?

As I understand it, the strict definition of Jewish descent is purely. You have to go back around 100-200k years to reach the most recent common matrilineal ancestor, and I'm reasonably confident she was not Jewish.

100-200k years? Based on... what? Judaism's earliest trace lies at about 1500BC... so not even close to 100k years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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post #182

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Just to get pedantic, aren't we all relatives if you go back 1000+ years?

As I understand it, the strict definition of Jewish descent is purely. You have to go back around 100-200k years to reach the most recent common matrilineal ancestor, and I'm reasonably confident she was not Jewish.

How many ancestors you have it just a function of how many generations you look back, and with each successive generations it doubles. At some point in the past, the entire world is your ancestor.

https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/all-europeans-are-relate...

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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post #151

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As a guy who's 1/8th Jewish, I still don't feel comfortable clicking on that URL at work for fear someone might get the wrong idea on what it's about.

I'm confused, is there a usage of the word 'kosher' that isn't safe at work? Are you worried that they may think you're Jewish and discriminate against you? p.s. You may know this, but from the religious POV, you are either Jewish or not, there's no 1/8th Jewish. If your mother was Jewish, you are too, all the way up your family tree. Either that or if you converted. :)

>the religious POV

There is no "the religious POV" and for some purposes, it seems practically and morally compelling to use a similar definition to what persecutors of Jews use, rather than a traditional religious one.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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As on Orthodox Jew, while I don't have anything against this and it sounds like a fun hobby project, I don't like that it misleads regarding what Jewish law actually requires. As several others have mentioned, there is absolutely no problem with keeping a server running on the sabbath - computers aren't Jews (Jewish law only expects Jews to keep the sabbath). If it's Jews working to generate the electricity (most "mo…

Just random observation - when I visited Israel I was astounded how nearly complete the sabbath shutdown is. In the US, the only day that comes close is Christmas Day and it’s still not even close. My wife and I struggled to find dinner and drove around for an hour or so until we found an Arab place that was open. Pretty much the only place in town that was open. Then sunset comes and everyone comes out. If you trave…

Come to Switzerland, it's like that on Sundays. Only kiosks at train stations and a small fraction of restaurants are open.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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This is an excellent comment, and I agree on the conclusion that either exists as much as the other. However ;-), I dare to say your argument is weak: Assume "I believe in the apple on my desk". But you will find there is neither a fruit nor an Apple branded computer on my desk. So an outside observer is bound to believe I am going mad, hence my belief shapes my social relationship with others around me. Now does thi…

Well, this is fun :) I think the problem with your argument is that you're replacing the concept of religion with the concept of 'apple' which in every sense signifies something that exists as a hylomorphic object. An apple which can sit on my desk. However language is full of concepts which don't share that kind of existence, ones which tend to be the objects of philosophy. Love, justice, power... race, gender, capi…

Absolutely :) Very convincing, but as per your user-info (should have read that before trying to be smart), I should not expect less of someone with a proper philosophical education and the (as I suppose) accompanying repository of philosophical knowledge ;) The subject of your thesis seems pretty interesting,... ah, I'm digressing ;)

Now, regarding Gods and apples: Because that's how I setup the Gedankenexperiment (and assuming I belong to the majority of people, who are neither blind nor suffering from severe neurological problems), if there was some matter in form of an apple on my desk, I should perceive it. IIRC Kant would say that I have a-priory knowledge of the absence of an apple from my desk. (I'm afraid I can't argue against that, so let me rephrase the first paragraph until I come up with something useful on how to convince you that comparing religion to an non-existent apple is perfectly fine reasoning.)

[... some minutes passed ...]

No, I think you're right. The problem is that, as you say, an 'apple' is an inherently physical object. Hence there either is one sitting on my desk and I can see it, or I can see that there is none. I can not just bend the definition of an apple at will, so I think I'm stuck here; accordingly, when I say "I believe in the apple on my desk", I am basing my proclaimed belief on a verifieable-false proposition; and much as with false assumptions, from that I can obviously derive anything. Religion (or other constructs of the mind) don't exist as physical objects (there is no religion-shaped matter), yet they influence and shape (ha!) our world, often even beyond what's possible for a physical object [1].

edit So when I say that I still believe in the apple on the desk even if there is proof of the contrary, I am just acting like an idiot - and that's what's actually influencing/shaping my social relationships ;) end edit

But, one ray of light :) Comparing religion to an apple might not be possible, but I think it's undecidable if comparing God to an apple is: What constitutes God is a matter of belief and hence there is no coherent definition. E.g. some might say there is no physical God, or maybe there is one but not "on our realm of existence" (whatever that means). OTOH, some religious people might even go as far to say that there is a physical heaven and a physical hell, even when presented physical proof of the contrary. So, maybe, there is an apple after all? ;)

[1] I can't resist but to note that, if we were on Pratchett's Discworld, this would be much easier. In that case "the Gods" would probably come knocking on my door for implying that they might not exist.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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post #129

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> mostly because mainstream Christianity does not currently have many restrictions which inconvenience people day to day. Note however that Islam has similar restrictions but an entirely different way to deal with them (respecting the spirit as well as their letter). My pet theory about the approach of the three main Abrahamic religions to restrictions: 1) Christianity: (loosely) respects the spirit but not the lette…

There do seem to be cases where Islam is more willing to adapt the rules, though. For instance, most halal meat in Europe at least is now slaughtered with stunning, and this appears to be acceptable to most local Muslim authorities provided that the stunning is done in a way that is unlikely to cause permanent injury (so, no captive bolt guns etc). This is arguably staying within the spirit of the rules (the animal i…

> This is arguably staying within the spirit of the rules (the animal isn't dead when slaughtered, and won't die if you don't slaughter it), but not the letter (in that it's an addition to the prescribed procedure).

It's staying within the spirit and the letter. The letter never dictates NOT to stun the animal. As a matter of fact, there are narrations that order us to make it as easy as possible on the animal being slaughtered. This falls perfectly inline with the sprit and letter.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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post #145

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> but there is a cost. It may be less than you suspect because the regular bubble in their ordering pipeline might give them time to deal with suppliers, maintain stock, improve their website, maintain systems, relax and refocus, etc. I doubt it works out better than not doing it at least economically, but there may be enough benefit to offset most of the costs. The times I've run into the B&H sabbath outage, I just…

>It may be less than you suspect because the regular bubble in their ordering pipeline might give them time to deal with suppliers, maintain stock, improve their website, maintain systems, relax and refocus, etc. the thing is, the bubble they have includes not doing anything on this list :)

Not during the time but presumably the lack of orders during that period results in reduced work the following day. Otherwise, they'd be like many businesses: closed on sunday, but handing sunday's orders on monday.
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