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Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by jimnotgym »

bthallplz wrote: post #3

> New search results are calculated on Tuesday of each week. Nothing new is created during Shabbat. You are served static cached data. I've been interested in the idea of having a user-facing website that generates static copies of its dynamic content on a set schedule. Do any of you have more examples of this? About this particular search engine, though, the search results I received from it either were not very rel…

Check out the JAMstack. We have been experimenting with this for everything from ecommerce to blogs...

https://jamstack.org/

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by WJW »

reallydontask wrote: post #96
WJW wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

God can't be stupid since (by axiom) he is all-knowing, perfect and presumably cares about the laws he sets. Therefore, any loopholes in the laws were put there on purpose and the believer is actually extra virtuous for paying close enough attention to notice the workarounds.

How do we know that the laws were set by him and not say a person who thought god was talking to him and somehow convinced people that they came from god? How do we know that the loopholes are not there to test the to the letter followers versus the spirit of the law followers? and how do we know which of those groups does god prefer?

Those are all fair questions, but they are about axioms and whether you should accept them or not. I was trying to describe the thought process of someone who has already accepted the axioms as set out in the old testament and is now trying to interpret the rules for modern times in an internally consistent way.

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Post by Shermanium »

gorgoiler wrote: post #76
amadeuspagel wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From: http://www.thebigquestions.com/2020/04/15/goofus-gallant-and... >You have three pieces of meat, two kosher, one not. You lose track of which is which. Can you eat them? Answer, according to (my memory of Sternberg’s account of) the Talmud: Each individual piece of meat has a 2/3 chance of being kosher. So if you choose one of them and ask “Is this kosher?”, a “yes” answer gives you a 2/3 chance to be right and…

Ah yes: the Monty Challah problem.

well played

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by dangus »

cik wrote: post #87
dangus wrote: post #83

As someone who isn’t religious, it’s really, REALLY hard to remind myself that not only do people still believe this stuff, but MOST people in the western world still believe in the Judeo-Christian God and all the underlying mythology. I feel like the rational outcome would be that only a small minority of people would still buy into these ideologies. But I guess economists already know that people aren’t rational. O…

The problem with that thinking is that neither belief nor disbelief in a deity is rational. Ultimately the existence (or non) of said deity is a leap of faith either way, given the inability to prove the existence of G-D. I fully understand the complete belief or disbelief in a religion. That's the assumption of a system surrounding G-D, but as an Orthodox Jew I don't pretend that there's 100% proof that G-D exists,…

Where I disagree here is the idea that my view is “disbelief.”

To me, believing or not is irrelevant. I don’t call a lack of evidence “disbelief,” it’s simply a lack of data.

I wouldn’t make decisions based on not knowing.

I wouldn’t plan to drive on interstate 90 to get to my destination if I wasn’t sure it existed.

I don’t consider the rationality of assuming something is to assuming something isn’t to be equal.

If my friend says “I have a million dollars in my trunk, but I can’t open it to show you” I can safely dismiss the remark as “unlikely“ without investing a lot of hope into the unlikelihood of my friend actually having a million dollars in their trunk. I certainly wouldn’t start telling all my friends and relatives about the money in the trunk that I have faith in being there. Could my friend be telling the truth? Sure! But I see no reason to take those words at face value. And disbelief of that story isn’t on an equal level of rationality of belief in it.

Now, if my friend opened the trunk and showed me the money, I could absolutely accept that reality, even though the outcome was extremely unlikely.

Essentially, I don’t agree with the religious that faith as a concept is a desirable human trait.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by reallydontask »

WJW wrote: post #102
reallydontask wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do we know that the laws were set by him and not say a person who thought god was talking to him and somehow convinced people that they came from god? How do we know that the loopholes are not there to test the to the letter followers versus the spirit of the law followers? and how do we know which of those groups does god prefer?

Those are all fair questions, but they are about axioms and whether you should accept them or not. I was trying to describe the thought process of someone who has already accepted the axioms as set out in the old testament and is now trying to interpret the rules for modern times in an internally consistent way.

that's fair enough but say that we accept that the rules do come from god and he is all knowing, etc ..., the second question still stands and is the gist of the comedian's jibe

How do we know that to the letter vs to the spirit following is the right course of action for the follower of the religion?

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by dangus »

rsynnott wrote: post #97
dangus wrote: post #83

As someone who isn’t religious, it’s really, REALLY hard to remind myself that not only do people still believe this stuff, but MOST people in the western world still believe in the Judeo-Christian God and all the underlying mythology. I feel like the rational outcome would be that only a small minority of people would still buy into these ideologies. But I guess economists already know that people aren’t rational. O…

> but MOST people in the western world still believe in the Judeo-Christian God This is probably no longer literally true; in polling a majority of Europeans who identify as Christian don't usually believe in a personal god, and significant numbers who identify as Christian don't believe in the supernatural at all. > and all the underlying mythology. Believing in _all_, or even most, of the mythology, as something th…

I think you make a good point, even in Bible Thumping America I bet a lot of people who identify as religious don’t deep down believe any of it.

At my most recent “church session to satisfy family” the preacher talked a lot about handling doubt. I found it very revealing that, on any given Sunday, you might find a preacher feeling the need to re-convince the congregation that the thing they’re there for is “real.” It made me think, “But I thought this was obvious truth to you? Haven’t you moved beyond this point?”

Interestingly, the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic Churches don’t agree on which day Easter falls upon!

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by binarymax »

kenrose wrote: post #50
Jaruzel wrote: post #41

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Ok. A serious question here: Can some HN Jews, enlighten me (a 100%-proof agnostic) on what they actually do on Shabbat? Are you allowed to use the internet? If something in your house breaks, are you not allowed to fix it? Do you just sit around gazing into space just in case something you do is classed as 'work'? I find the whole concept quite interesting.

For Sabbath observing Jews, “work” is defined as a certain set of 39 (?) activities that are defined in the bible and relating to building the “Mishkan”. Generations of Talmudic rabbis then added new interpretations and requirements on these rules to adapt for new technology. eg, the prohibition against using electricity is because it relates to igniting a spark, which is one of the 39 prohibited activities (Or “mala…

You left off the most important activity of the double mitzvah!

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

joelbluminator wrote: post #86
nanna wrote: post #28

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Where would you argue a war exists today that does not have its roots in the economic domination of one group over another, and is purely fought on religious grounds?

Crusades, ISIS, the depression of the muslim Uyghur by China, European antisemitism (which culminated in nazism), Armenian genocide, etc etc. Now many atrocities had several factors, but I believe religion plays a dominant role in the ones I listed. Arguably you can put 11-9 and the subsiquent mid east war in there as well...

> the depression of the muslim Uyghur by China

This is not a religious conflict. China has oppressed the Uighurs because the Xinjiang region was only brought under full Chinese control late, and the Uighurs have been relatively independent-minded.

That this conflict isn't about Islam per se is evident from the fact that 1) there is a substantial Muslim population within China outside of Xinjiang, and those Muslims have not been given the same brutal treatment, and 2) there have also been secularist voices of resistance among the Uighurs to Chinese control of Xinjiang.

Re: Kosher search engine powered by 4 car batteries on a passively cooled server

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Post by asdfman123 »

emosenkis wrote: post #25

As on Orthodox Jew, while I don't have anything against this and it sounds like a fun hobby project, I don't like that it misleads regarding what Jewish law actually requires. As several others have mentioned, there is absolutely no problem with keeping a server running on the sabbath - computers aren't Jews (Jewish law only expects Jews to keep the sabbath). If it's Jews working to generate the electricity (most "mo…

As a guy who's 1/8th Jewish, I still don't feel comfortable clicking on that URL at work for fear someone might get the wrong idea on what it's about.
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