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Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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I think this is done on purpose but not as an immigration move. Its a play against universities, a political enemy of Trump. At the same time this is happening, they are waiving the degree requirement for federal employment: a nice little monopoly rent universities had, as well as the immigration one. Americans might not appreciate this but not only colleges subsist on international students: they subsist on them req…

Satya Nadella and Sundar Pichai came through this route. It's not a degree for visa like you think it is.

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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> the US is still extremely generous with immigration. US is the WORST country on earth for immigration. I came to US >10 years ago, still NOWHERE near getting a Green Card. Will probably won't get well into my 30s or 40s. It's practically impossible to get it in the next 5 years. The same time I started undergrad in US, my friend started undergrad in Germany. He was already a German citizen by the time we were worki…

+1 to what you said. 18 years for me and no permanent residency in sight. I'd have been a citizen a few times over in any other country.

That's horrible. I have several friends from different origin countries (including USA) who have received Swiss citizenships (which the American right wing holds up as some sort of uber-restrictive standard) in half that time.

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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So, still immoral. It's gatekeeping upwards mobility with absurd prices.

You're missing the entire point of my comment - college is antiquated.

For neurosurgeons ? Come now.

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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> the US is still extremely generous with immigration. US is the WORST country on earth for immigration. I came to US >10 years ago, still NOWHERE near getting a Green Card. Will probably won't get well into my 30s or 40s. It's practically impossible to get it in the next 5 years. The same time I started undergrad in US, my friend started undergrad in Germany. He was already a German citizen by the time we were worki…

Could the waiting be attributed to your country of citizenship? I know there's a long wait for citizens of a few countries because there are per-country limits on green cards.

Nope, I'm not from China or India (so I'm in the global pool). If you're from India, it's impossible to get citizenship this way (the waitlist is too long), you need to marry a US citizen if you want citizenship.

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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I don't understand what you mean. How would the role be filled? They invented the role, that's the point of founding something. They didn't apply to a job posting for the position of "founder" that somebody else could have applied to.

Say you have a CTO, Salesman and CEO founding and one is an immigrant, it is possible the other two would have filled that role with someone else.

Anything is possible, but the term "cofounder" is not usually thrown around lightly. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find any cofounder willing to say they could have started their business without one or more of their fellow cofounders.

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23751931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23755301 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23753413 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23753182

@dang - Flagging as [dupe] shouldn't remove an article from the HN front page, especially when none of the other articles are actively on the front page.

Also, all [dupe] article comments should be merged and visible under each separate [dupe] article, so organic user dialogue isn't split up and minimized.

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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So, still immoral. It's gatekeeping upwards mobility with absurd prices.

Its a private service, they don't sell "justice"

It's a private service. Lots of institutions used to be private until government realized that they were effectively States within States and nationalised them in the interests of the public good

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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It's another measurable, negative impact of the America First philosophy [1]. 40% of the Fortune 500 companies are founded by immigrant families [2][3], so the U.S. is really shooting itself in the foot (again). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_(policy) [2] F500 2010: http://research.newamericaneconomy.org/wp-content/uploads/20... (pdf) [3] F500 2017: https://startupsusa.org/fortune500/

Being an immigrant is not virtuous in and of itself. How many of those 40% 'immigrant families' immigrated here poor and climbed the economic ladder, and how many took stolen wealth from a feudal system in the old country and built a business? Instead of investing in our domestic population with job training and scholarships, corporations are importing labor from overseas. Those people getting imported have degrees (…

>More labor means cheaper labor.

This is the lump of labour fallacy[0], and is erroneously used to argue against immigration.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

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You're missing the entire point of my comment - college is antiquated.

For neurosurgeons ? Come now.

Of course there are going to be exceptions to any blanket internet hot take.

Re: Int. students may need to leave US if classes are 100% Remote

#190
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$50,000 a year for a Harvard undergraduate course exclusive of accommodation and food. Sounds like there's a lot of fat that could be trimmed. Sounds immoral in fact.

> $50,000 a year for a Harvard undergraduate course exclusive of accommodation and food Please don’t throw this number out without understanding how it really works. 55% of Harvard undergrads get some sort of financial aid. Much of this aid is in the form of grants that cover tuition. One simple example — if a student’s family makes $65k or less a year, tuition is free. Above $65k, there is a sliding scale, and finan…

What's called in economics, elastic pricing then. The same model that means you can be on the same package holiday as someone else paying a vastly different price. A model that would be criminal if you used it to charge customers in a high street shop. It's charging based on what you think you can screw out of them but, for cosmetic reasons, dressing it up as subsiding poorer students
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