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"The primary purpose of feminism is to lower white birthrates." - https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/118100374698304307... "If we had been allowed to talk about race and IQ, the invasion of Iraq would never have occurred, because no one would have been under the illusion that a Jeffersonian Republic was going to emerge from a population with an IQ in the 80s. Opposing science got >500k people killed." - https:…
Ugh. Those are awful.
YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
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I'm not sure what you are watching, but I have never been funneled to anything even remotely like that. YT sends you videos based on your watch history. If you watch hate videos to see what kind of stuff people are saying then you should delete them from your history to avoid YT finding you more.
Multiple experiments have demonstrated that as you follow recommendations it drives you more and more towards extreme content. If you don’t follow recs it obviously has no “drive” to keep you on as you’re not following the journey. Basically the recommendations system always tries to drive you towards slightly more “engaging” content. Zeynep Tufekci, amongst others, published about it back in 2018.
This is not a surprising outcome; it is totally expected.
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Wow that guy's an idiot. He actually claims the Iraq War was a failure because Iraqis have IQs in the 80s and are therefore incapable of accepting democracy. Racism aside, if you've done even a bit of reading on IQ you know it's been rising for decades if not longer. His Jeffersonian Democracy was built by people with an IQ that would be in the 80s today.
Can you point to some of that reading? Pedantically, that goes against the definition of IQ, where 100 is always average so it can't really increase over time, but your general point about people getting smarter doesn't intuitively make sense to me. Obviously we have more knowledge and resources to build on today, but I've never seen any reason to believe modern humans are smarter from birth than humans born 300 year…
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I am not here to do any defending of anyone, but as some people are able to defend themselves as (often rightfully) with "it was taken out of context". Yet every time I have heard anything with molyneux it has seemed to me exactly the opposite. Very few things taken out of context seem very bad. As a whole, on the other hand, I always got the impression he is bat-shit insane. Does he mention white genocide? I doubt i…
I appreciate your point, but both of those tweets are bad even without context :)
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I have an easy answer to that: Youtube has more users than there are people in US. If you had a service that was used by whole of US, shouldn't that be public? Imagine there was a single food stall in the entire US. Should you allow food stall which is really controlled by a few share holders and executives at the top to decide whom to feed or not? Again, the problem is not huge platforms banning toxic people. It's t…
The decision to nationalize/socialize something is always political. There is no intrinsic public aspect to anything. If there were only one food stall in the entire US, does that mean people aren't allowed to hunt, forage or grow their own food, or trade for it from someone who does? If so, then you've got a totally different problem on your hands: regulatory capture. If not, then refusing service to a person is ver…
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It is coordinated. Remember when Alex Jones got banned from literally everything on the same day? The reddit bans wave was leaked in advance. The more actors involved in a coordinated action the harder it is to keep a secret. Original leak: https://old.reddit.com/r/WatchRedditDie/comments/hh1pjd/redd...
>It is coordinated. Is there any evidence of this besides the announcements just happening on the same day? It could be companies waiting to announce these moves on Monday morning after days of seeing Facebook embroiled in controversy for not doing this. Or maybe one company decided to make this move and other companies fast tracked anything they had planned on this so they wouldn't be viewed as ignoring this issue.…
The likelihood of high profile bans like these not being coordinated is slim.
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#147It's a purge. It won't stop with these three. The censorship will continue to get worse and be disproportionately applied to those on the right until all is left with the world. Conservatism has a place in society. I'm not endorsing any of these guys viewpoints nor am I associating them with conservatism in general, because it's a broad group of over 100 million people in the U.S. with a diverse range of opinions tha…
Like where were you guys when Arkansas literally banned Howard Zinn? What about when South Carolina banned the words 'climate change'?
Sorry but you all just don't come across consistent enough to be taken seriously.
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[1] https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/ark-bill-introduced...
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/12/north-caroli...
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#148Twitch and Reddit enacted bans simultaneously: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/29/reddit-bans-pro-tru... https://www.engadget.com/twitch-suspends-donald-trump-accoun... Seems odd for multiple independent companies to act in concert like this.
> Seems odd for multiple independent companies to act in concert like this Yes and no, this is less collusion and more to avoid platform hopping basically if one platform bans them they’ll flock to another even if the medium isn’t identical or the platform is not optimal for their use case any platform would do in times like these. I’m pretty sure at this point when the behavior pattern is known the platforms inform…
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> Apparently they're going to ban a large number of subs on Monday and frame it as an anti-racism initiative Has this been announced or was this just speculation?
"Apparently they're going to ban a large number of subs on Monday and frame it as an anti-racism initiative" Frame it? It is an anti-racism initiative. It may have side effects as well but that is the main driver.
At this point it feels like Reddit saves the big important bans specifically so they can be announced in ban waves, because by the time they happen the response is always, “how in the world did this take over a year to be done?”
edit: to my point it looks like they banned over 2000 subs this time. I doubt that list hadn’t been growing over time. I checked out one that was apparently for a podcast and the little bit I could view on Wayback Machine looked pretty damn ordinary, with only mildly edgy jokes. Not immediately casting doubt that there is good reason but it sure feels like every other ban wave I’ve seen from Reddit.
Re: YouTube bans Stefan Molyneux, David Duke, Richard Spencer for hate speech
#150Twitch and Reddit enacted bans simultaneously: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/29/reddit-bans-pro-tru... https://www.engadget.com/twitch-suspends-donald-trump-accoun... Seems odd for multiple independent companies to act in concert like this.
The public square is owned by private companies and they're enforcing anti-first amendment principles. One can't even argue that these banned people can move to another platform if they're all coordinating. Leftist extremists are effecting public banishment of their rightist extremist opponents. It wouldn't be as bad if leftist extremists were getting banned at the same time. The problem is that leftist extremists ha…