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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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20th Century Dystopian novels are now operations manuals.

The difference between 1984 and 2020 is censorship is committed by corporations instead of governments. Does this difference matter? All Americans have to participate in government, whether directly by voting and holding office or indirectly by simply living in America's society of laws and its enforcement. Using Reddit directly is done voluntarily.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#392

I wonder how they will fight against the other kind of systematic propaganda now but guess nothing will happen. Subs like /r/bestof became absolute shit See the current top post there which is absolutely crazy but hey it fits the agenda.

Reddit is basically a Left-wing propaganda outlet at this point. The amount of clearly targeted sub-Reddits with the aim of radicalising their target group is staggering and would make even the most nefarious of insurgents blush at how open and obvious it is.

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How many left-leaning subreddits were banned? There're several toxic commie subs with a lot of hatred thrown around, but nobody seems to care. r/politics was default for ages and it wasn't exactly a welcoming place.

ChapoTrapHouse, which was the largest left wing sub. Edit (since I can't reply): r/politics is American liberalism, which is centrist.

"Largest left wing sub" is probably too broad a term when /r/politics exists.

"Largest far-left frequently rule-breaking sub" is a more useful designation.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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20th Century Dystopian novels are now operations manuals.

It's very sad how many leftist are cheering on the censorship. Forcible silencing of opposing views is a central tenant of actual fascism (not the kind of "fascism" that kids on social media accuse people of just for disagreeing with them). History repeats itself, it would seem. This is a modern day book burning.

Americans have a constitutional guarantee to free speech. They do not have a constitutional guarantee to use Reddit. Does that difference matter here?

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> I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. It was very clearly a real community, as you can see evidence from the fact that they migrated to thedonald.win when Reddit made it clear that they wouldn't be treated fairly. > So you'd be in your other community and one day they all show up and down votes and the vitriol begins... it was no mystery that this happened, it was spoken of openly in The_Donald…

Well, if you had any doubt about the character of TD and what it has become at its new home, just cruise around it. It’s full of conspiracy theories, misogyny, racism, and outright calls to violence. It is a common sentiment there that the only good Democrat is a dead one. These “edgy” takes receive many upvotes.

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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It is, but it's also a cost for not removing hate, and also just for having a slightly different opinion on what constitutes hate than some of your users. When you have a billion users, there's going to be a lot of them that disagree with you on things.

Yes and reasonable people understand this and don't need censorship. Who would hate a platform for not removing people for just honestly disagreeing and talking? Inciting violence and cheating the system is a different story and the obvious edge of free speech

> Who would hate a platform for not removing people for just honestly disagreeing and talking?

A lot of people. And if your goal is quantity, not quality, those people are important, because they are who the investors give you money to build a site for.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

So, why moderate a public forum? Why should platform owners decide what's right and what's wrong? If something is legal then why should we censor it just because it may seem hateful to someone, or somebody feels offended? So what if a post offends somebody? They can deal with it like an adult. Ignore the trolls, and discuss if there is a discussion, offending or not. If people want a safe private place with no intrud…

There is a certain amount of irony here, due to this comment's presence on as heavily moderated a forum as this.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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IMO the 'heavy censorship' is the only thing keeping hobby communities going well. Without that moderation, you'd be trying to learn about something fun like knitting but you'd see a bunch of hateful content, like racist MAGA stuff instead of knitting for example. Having the moderation get stronger is the only way to save hobby subreddits IMO.

No you wouldn’t, that’s the whole point of upvotes and downvotes. The community gets to decide what’s popular. Not moderators.

What do you mean, "wouldn't"? This isn't a hypothetical, this is the reality of today. And yes, it is a current problem.

> that’s the whole point of upvotes and downvotes.

No it's not. In fact the reddit rules / guidelines specifically state that is not what upvotes and downvotes are for. It's specifically called out for the moderators to deal with it through user reports, not through votes.

Plus, lots of downvotes does nothing to remove hateful content. The content is still there! Only the moderators can remove hateful content.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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And then the site exploded, and it had to learn how to handle things like actual nazis calling for the deaths of jewish people. I'm not sure I see where the joke is - this was inevitable.

I spent years on that subreddit and never once saw somebody that identified as a Nazi calling for the deaths of Jewish people. I bet you can't find any such examples. Your viewpoints of the world are based on hearsay and propaganda, not facts and logic.

> I spent years on that subreddit

But why ?

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