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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#121

Never checked it out. Don't regret it

I visited, shared my viewpoint and was promptly banned. Good for you to stay away (for your mental health) but seeing first-hand the sort of hate and bigotry posted daily was both shocking and informative.

Reddit should give a trophy to everyone banned from /r/the_donald

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#122
post #20

I'm confused by the article. My understanding was that reddit replaced the moderators of /r/The_Donald months ago after initially making in quarantined. The Wikipedia article seems to agree with my understanding: > In February 26, 2020, Reddit administrators removed a number of r/The_Donald moderators "that were approving, stickying, and generally supporting content in this subreddit that breaks [Reddit's] content po…

Yeah, the ban of T_D is only symbolic; it has been dead for months. I think the real news here is the ban of /r/ChapoTrapHouse, (arguably) the most active leftist subreddit there was.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#123
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit particularly used to be a free speech platform where anything could go and then used network effects to gain dominance. Now that they have dominance they now implement censorship of right wing views comments. This is true for Facebooks deboosting capabilities.

> Now that they have dominance they now implement censorship of right wing views comments. They did the same with chapo - so, it's really not just right wing views...

Those platforms don't lack on identitarian division and push of extremist views

There might be a slight point that those platforms end up being more of a right wing echo-chamber more than a left-wing one because of some factors. But the bias is on what's in there, not on the platform

That being said, nothing was lost of value with the shutting down of T_D (ok, maybe it would be a prime source of information on manipulative state actors, but they can work on what they have already)

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#124
post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

You can win if you apply rules equally, but you have to be willing to stand up for your platform and not cave to a small group of people.

r/The_Donald - they shut down r/Fuckthealtright - open for business

And by open for business, I mean openly calling for killing conservatives.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#125

I was mostly OK with the previous restrictions on Mr. Trump, because they were directed at a person acting irresponsibily. This, however, may cross a line for me. I'm not a Reddit user, but it's my understanding that this is a discussion group about a person. I'm less OK with restricting the discussions of topics. It reminds me of something I heard in a forensics class years ago: Attack the problem, not the person. I…

There are pro-Trump, pro-Conservative subreddits which haven't broken the rules and haven't been particularly hateful. Those subs are still active.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#126
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a "real" definition of hate speech? It seems like a hard to define rule. I also hate Trump but am allowed to say any horrible thing I want to about him, but if I were to same the same things about Hilary (I also hated her as a politician) it would be hate speech.

Its subjective. The side who has more power get to define the meaning of hate speech.

Bingo

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#127
post #63

Press F to Pay Respects. BTW, the unofficial successor (as listed on the subreddit itself before the ban) is alive and well at thedonald.win

So Voat never took off?

Yeah, it turns out that most people don't want to go swimming through a cesspit for entertainment after all.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump is the president of the United States, Republicans have both the Senate and the Supreme Court, and I can barely go two seconds without hearing the perspective of people who voted for Trump. There is an entire news network that acts in an almost official capacity as the Republican party press arm. What on earth makes you think Reddit is the only major place that people could discuss "issues"?

So, discrimination is okay as long as you have alternatives?

People closing down your internet forum after a billion warnings and blatant violation of the rules of the site is not discrimination. If anything The_Donald was allowed to stay around for way longer than most other subs that did the kind of things it did, precisely because they did not want to have to deal with the tremendous number of communication channels available to Trump supporters to complain about it.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The internet (and Reddit itself) was rather different in 2012.

The whole US was definitely different, Mitt Romney to Donald Trump is quite an extreme transition.

Donald Trump was a democrat for most of his life. The basic tenants of secure borders + protecting american jobs was basically the Democrat platform for most of its existence.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

#130
post #7

Worth taking note that in today's climate, you really cannot win when you are in a position to moderate important things that a lot of people use. There is constantly tremendous pressure on you to perform opposing actions, and even making no decision at all will cause you significant mental stress and harassment, regardles of what the issue is. You have to pick who you want to cave to, and to what extent, and no matt…

> a lot of people will really really hate you. That's an anticipated cost of removing hate.

It is, but it's also a cost for not removing hate, and also just for having a slightly different opinion on what constitutes hate than some of your users. When you have a billion users, there's going to be a lot of them that disagree with you on things.
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