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Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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I have to say, at the very least, the UI is a breath of fresh air compared to new Reddit. New Reddit is just...I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just feels awful to look at.

My biggest anger with new reddit is that it just doesn’t work. It’s rare that a video will play twice without a reload, infuriating if you want to share a funny video with a spouse, and it will regularly go into a mode where all videos stop working until a complete reload happens. This has been a consistent drag on my reddit usage now that my primary consumption of sites like this is via my iPad, and I suspect I’m not alone.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Pretty gross to respond that only people on the right use "slurs," after being given several examples of why various minorities would want to use them. I'm pretty sure the n-word is used a lot more by black people than by "right wingers"

It's not a slur when black people use it. Most of the time.

Mhm.. yeah I've never been able to follow that line of reasoning.

I'm a gay person and if I call someone the f-word I would generally mean it as a slur / insult.

Bigotry / offensive words doesn't just lose meaning because you're a minority.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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But often these sites start doing the right thing and then restrict it, tkaing a step backward. Before: https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png After: https://i.imgur.com/8j7P1YE.png The latter is objectively worse. I understand that > 1080p monitors are a small fraction of your user base, but that's still not reason to not test your UI on larger resolutions, for a site as big (and prominently used by devs with large screens…

Do that many people use maximised windows on 16:9 or greater screens? Maybe it’s just because all my early experience was on 4:3, but I’d never maximise a browser window on a modern screen. I’d agree this is bad design, but I’d be somewhat surprised if it’s a big practical problem for most people.

The idea that anyone wouldn’t maximize all applications, especially their browser, is utterly bewildering to me.

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> If you choose to opt out of email then you also choose to opt out of email support and being able to reset passwords via email. And the users will get mad and blame the service provider. That said users are dumb/wrong or whatever is irrelevant, what matters to the business is that they're pissing off users and getting a bad reputation. Thus, requiring emails from the user is entirely rational and in fact is a good…

No, making it a default makes sense. Users will not get mad if they get a warning telling them email support will no longer be possible. Alternatively you can opt with giving them a recovery code by which they can contact support or with which email will be enabled for an account when the user forgets their password. The only time you can't turn on email on your account is if you lose the password. Email is not secur…

> Users will not get mad if they get a warning telling them email support will no longer be possible.

Yes, they will. Most will not have even noticed the warning you put up.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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As an non-American, Reddit is in general, awful.

It's all "Trump, Trump, Trump" and tolerates anti-white sentiment. Actual conversations are rare, it seems to mostly be impressionable young people trying to out-do each other in taking offence to things and being angry.

It seems you can't block subreddits like r/politics without making an account.

/r/cpp has some good stuff sometimes.

What would a reddit alternative bring? More of the same? No thanks.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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I have to say, at the very least, the UI is a breath of fresh air compared to new Reddit. New Reddit is just...I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just feels awful to look at.

While I agree that new reddit is awful, I still much prefer old reddit to this. Also what's up with this new trend of having the main content width-restricted, but not the header [0]? The new GitHub UI that went live this week has the exact same problem on wide screens. What kind of UX designer ever approved such a mess and why do so many sites do this? The main UI itself, again very width restricted, but also has st…

Wow, you're right. It did improve quite a bit. Not in an "OMG I'm switching right now" kind of way, but definitely in a "maybe I'll play around with this and see if I can configure it to my liking."

Never would have happened if someone hadn't made a post like this, so thanks!

edit: Aaaand instant regret, wow. Are you guys seeing this "Top Broadcast Right Now" shit? The best part for me is not just the ~1000px high random garbage video that takes up my whole screen, but before the video itself loads I actually get a ~1000px "white noise" animation, except it isn't just white but brightly colored, too.

I had a brief urge to heat up my soldering iron and stick it in my eye.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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You’ve got to give people a space to consider both sides of every argument. Better to cordone off that space than have that discussion elsewhere. If you tell someone NEVER GO INTO THE LAST DOOR ON THE THIRD STORY, they’ll endlessly wonder what’s inside. If you show them that it’s your amateur paintings, they’ll never care again.

I don’t need to have a discussion with a guy who beats his wife because he never got help for his PTSD to know it’s wrong. Giving it a platform treats it like a point of view and not a gross fucking crime. I don’t need to talk to a Nazi to know that gassing Jews and gays is wrong. People seem to think that there are some unexplored ideas here that merit further discussion. We have already established that this shit i…

You might not need to talk to that guy to know beating his wife was wrong. But talking to him may make you realize he’s in a lot of pain, and that he’s been hurt by a system larger than both of you. That doesn’t absolve him of guilt but I think pragmatically it gives us a better shot at preventing such things in the far future.

You don’t have to browse Nazi forums to know that gassing Jews is wrong. But you may start to discover the reasons why these (mostly) young men are so angry, which I posit allows one to do more to prevent the spread of such ideologies.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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We have something similar to this, Aether. https://getaether.net . (code at github.com/nehbit/aether) Always glad to see more eyeballs on the space, so I wish then the best. Here are a few differences I can see at the first glance: - Aether is decentralised (as in torrent) this appears to be federated. That means Aether truly has no servers and every user is a peer, while federated means there are smaller ‘Reddits’ a…

Have you thought about implementing a decentralized, user centric moderation system instead of electing mods? Like this: https://adecentralizedworld.com/2020/06/a-trust-and-moderati... Would this work with Aether?

The way it works in Aether is that we have a few rules on choosing what 'effective' mods you have on your view. From weakest (as in, most prone to be overridden) to strongest:

- Default mods, which are either the creator of the community or those that are assigned by that person

- Elected mods, mods which are chosen by the community. Election goes both ways, you can both be elected or impeached. For example, a default mod can be impeached by the election system, and that would render that mod a non-mod for you

- Mods you've personally chosen. Choosing someone to be a mod for you is your vote in the election.

So the system isn't 'enforcing' mods you haven't chosen onto you as a result of the elections. Elections only make the decision only if you haven't made a decision for that mod in either way — if you make a decision that is ironclad (for you, in your personal, local view), since nothing can override your personal vote for or against somebody. The more you vote in elections, the more you shape your own view of the universe.

The article is long, but what I can see there that is not implemented in Aether is the transitive property of trust, instead of having a vote which is binary, he seems to be advocating for a 0 to 100 trust, and the idea that trust of the people you trust means something to you. (Let me know if I got this wrong).

This is great in theory — and this was actually considered for implementation at one point. The issue isn't that it doesn't make sense but it is quite literally impossible to implement, since it makes it so that almost every trust decision made by someone on the network at some point in time affects almost all other entities, which leaves you with an almost entirely 'dirty' graph that you have to traverse in entirety and recompile.

This can be done on a centralised service since there is one graph to compile and everyone submits to it. However, in Aether, what we try to do is that we try to keep the graph compilation part on the user end, both because it's a P2P network, and also because custom graphs compiled on the client end is what allows the votes to be able to modify the graph structure itself. That sort of gradual outflow of trust across a social graph making decisions on what to show or not show for every single piece of content is an intense amount of computation to do for every new modification to the trust gradient.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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I think Lemmy needs to address this before it will get any wide acceptance: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816

A profanity filter? Seems at best make it an optional preference, but why would you want to see offensive slurs by default?

So you know who you're talking to?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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It's not a slur when black people use it. Most of the time.

Mhm.. yeah I've never been able to follow that line of reasoning. I'm a gay person and if I call someone the f-word I would generally mean it as a slur / insult. Bigotry / offensive words doesn't just lose meaning because you're a minority.

Social and cultural dynamics remain what they are regardless of whether you personally find them rational.
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