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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a scientific and political position. What exactly do you mean by "scientific position"? The term seems, to me, an absurdity. > Doesn't make it okay. Putting aside any actual wrongdoing, attacking those with privilege is infinitely better than attacking those without: the former have the resources to defend themselves; the latter do not.

> What exactly do you mean by "scientific position"? The term seems, to me, an absurdity. In the same way your stance on climate change is a scientific position regardless if your stance is correct or not. > the former have the resources to defend themselves; the latter do not. It's still an evil to unjustly attack someone even if to different degrees.

> In the same way your stance on climate change is a scientific position regardless if your stance is correct or not.

Can you please just give the definition of "scientific position" that you are using?

Do you mean an assertion regarding reality? Because I think everyone agrees on the reality. The question of what the words "sex" and "gender" constitute is not a question of reality: it is a question of social and legal constructs.

> It's still an evil to unjustly attack someone even if to different degrees.

Yep.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#333

I think Lemmy needs to address this before it will get any wide acceptance: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816

>We are never going to remove the slur filter completely (or add an option to that effect), because we dont want to make it easy for right-wingers to use Lemmy.

Welp, I just completely wrote off this site and I'm about as middle of the road as they come in America. What a short sighted and ignorant way to look at the world.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#334

I think Lemmy needs to address this before it will get any wide acceptance: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816

> We are never going to remove the slur filter completely (or add an option to that effect), because we dont want to make it easy for right-wingers to use Lemmy. Welp, I just completely wrote off this site and I'm about as middle of the road as they come in America. What a short sighted and ignorant way to look at the world.

That's the thing! It doesn't stop hate speech.

"I think we should eliminate all of (((those people)))." I didn't use the k-word, but everyone knows what the sentence means.

On the other hand, you can't post "tranny" or "bitch" but, bitch is contextual: it's definition is a female dog, but even in the context of "wow she's such a bitch" bitch is not a slur. "Tranny" is derogatory in the context when used against trans people, but it's also used quite often in mechanics to mean "transmission." There are so many different contexts in which these words aren't derogatory, and in some cases represent the power of people to reclaim what was previously a slur.

Banning certain words is incredibly short-sighted, and punishes everyone who uses the platform while not addressing the real issue: extreme right-wingers can still use it just fine, and have absolutely no problem coming up with new dog whistles in order to get around your elementary word filter.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#335

I think Lemmy needs to address this before it will get any wide acceptance: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816

Pretty gross to respond that only people on the right use "slurs," after being given several examples of why various minorities would want to use them.

I'm pretty sure the n-word is used a lot more by black people than by "right wingers"

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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I'm surprised not a single comment discussing Reddit alternatives mentioned Usenet (especially in terms of federation).

Well, now yours does, and thinking of federation, that is what I thought of, too. And, I think also, to be based on NNTP. I think at at least what should be done includes: Use NNTP, and avoid namespace collisions if you are defining your own newsgroups. I don't know how to request adding newsgroups to Big 8, or to the alt hierarchy, or others, but I invented the "Unusenet" convention for avoiding namespace collisions, which I use on my own NNTP server. Make the web pages contain the message ID, newsgroup name, and information to connect to the NNTP server, even if JavaScripts are disabled. Users who want NNTP can use it even if they do not have a compatible browser. If you want to use Markdown, add a "Content-type: text/markdown" header to articles that use Markdown (and do not try to render articles without such a header as Markdown), and preferably using a subset of Markdown without HTML.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We are never going to remove the slur filter completely (or add an option to that effect), because we dont want to make it easy for right-wingers to use Lemmy. Welp, I just completely wrote off this site and I'm about as middle of the road as they come in America. What a short sighted and ignorant way to look at the world.

That's the thing! It doesn't stop hate speech. "I think we should eliminate all of (((those people)))." I didn't use the k-word, but everyone knows what the sentence means. On the other hand, you can't post "tranny" or "bitch" but, bitch is contextual: it's definition is a female dog, but even in the context of "wow she's such a bitch" bitch is not a slur . "Tranny" is derogatory in the context when used against tran…

In restaurants I worked in a long time ago, servers would just call black people "Canadians" -- for instance, "Nope, don't sit those Canadians in my section, they don't tip."

Good luck filtering for stuff like that. And even if you did, people would just come up with new version.

Re: The core problem... Why would having extreme right wingers use your site even be a problem? Presumably extreme left wingers are okay?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#338

We have something similar to this, Aether. https://getaether.net . (code at github.com/nehbit/aether) Always glad to see more eyeballs on the space, so I wish then the best. Here are a few differences I can see at the first glance: - Aether is decentralised (as in torrent) this appears to be federated. That means Aether truly has no servers and every user is a peer, while federated means there are smaller ‘Reddits’ a…

> we can’t really have a web app

Are you familiar with https://notabug.io/ ? IIRC this is decentralized.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

#339

I think Lemmy needs to address this before it will get any wide acceptance: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816

A profanity filter? Seems at best make it an optional preference, but why would you want to see offensive slurs by default?

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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post #335

I think Lemmy needs to address this before it will get any wide acceptance: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816

Pretty gross to respond that only people on the right use "slurs," after being given several examples of why various minorities would want to use them. I'm pretty sure the n-word is used a lot more by black people than by "right wingers"

It's not a slur when black people use it. Most of the time.
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