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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by earthscienceman »

agensaequivocum wrote: post #239
earthscienceman wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love how you explicitly avoided the use of the word gender and don't actually address that you're uncomfortable that some people don't fit into the social boxes of male and female. As for vitriol against billionaires and cops, taking a stand against people abusing power is as American as the Boston tea party. If you're advocating for people to shut up and take the abuse you sound pretty authoritarian to me. Is it t…

> If you're advocating for people to shut up and take the abuse you sound pretty authoritarian to me. No I never said that nor do I think it. There are definite problems with some cops and there are many instances of gross abuse. I have no problem with billionaires.

You said, I quote, "it doesn't make it OK (sic: to fight back just because they abuse you)".

Sounds pretty authoritarian to me.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by phist_mcgee »

rglullis wrote: post #196
rolleiflex wrote: post #151

We have something similar to this, Aether. https://getaether.net . (code at github.com/nehbit/aether) Always glad to see more eyeballs on the space, so I wish then the best. Here are a few differences I can see at the first glance: - Aether is decentralised (as in torrent) this appears to be federated. That means Aether truly has no servers and every user is a peer, while federated means there are smaller ‘Reddits’ a…

> By another proxy, this means Aether avoids the issue of having a ‘middle management’ (...) so no one can control what you see. This right here is the main thing that will never let any fully-decentralized system become mainstream. Two problems: - Most people do want "middle-management". They don't want to deal with security risks, technical issues, understanding how the protocol works just to be able to share memes…

Care to explain the Zawinski test? Google gave me zip on it.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by ehsankia »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #258
ehsankia wrote: post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree that new reddit is awful, I still much prefer old reddit to this. Also what's up with this new trend of having the main content width-restricted, but not the header [0]? The new GitHub UI that went live this week has the exact same problem on wide screens. What kind of UX designer ever approved such a mess and why do so many sites do this? The main UI itself, again very width restricted, but also has st…

> Also what's up with this new trend of having the main content width-restricted, but not the header [0]? For extremely wide screens it obviously looks awkward, but the idea seems sound in principle. IIRC, the reason you'd want to restrict width of content is that it's hard for your eyes to track back all the way left, to the start of the content, when you need to go down a line. But the header is just a single line,…

But often these sites start doing the right thing and then restrict it, tkaing a step backward.

Before: https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png

After: https://i.imgur.com/8j7P1YE.png

The latter is objectively worse. I understand that > 1080p monitors are a small fraction of your user base, but that's still not reason to not test your UI on larger resolutions, for a site as big (and prominently used by devs with large screens) as GitHub.

My eye still has to jump back and forth long distances if I want to fork the repo for example.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by TulliusCicero »

glenstein wrote: post #240
TulliusCicero wrote: post #235

I have to say, at the very least, the UI is a breath of fresh air compared to new Reddit. New Reddit is just...I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just feels awful to look at.

Absolutely. It's not a bad interface, and for better or for worse I think this is critically important to get right, and was a huge part of Mastodon's success. I think so many other well-intentioned projects fail because of inscrutable interfaces, so it is good to see the UI taken seriously.

Oh, has Mastodon been successful? I haven't heard much about that.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by TulliusCicero »

ehsankia wrote: post #265
TulliusCicero wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also what's up with this new trend of having the main content width-restricted, but not the header [0]? For extremely wide screens it obviously looks awkward, but the idea seems sound in principle. IIRC, the reason you'd want to restrict width of content is that it's hard for your eyes to track back all the way left, to the start of the content, when you need to go down a line. But the header is just a single line,…

But often these sites start doing the right thing and then restrict it, tkaing a step backward. Before: https://i.imgur.com/sgODcLW.png After: https://i.imgur.com/8j7P1YE.png The latter is objectively worse. I understand that > 1080p monitors are a small fraction of your user base, but that's still not reason to not test your UI on larger resolutions, for a site as big (and prominently used by devs with large screens…

Agreed, the UI in the after picture is awful. I really doubt it's intentional there, unfortunate that there's an oversight like that.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by cambalache »

rolleiflex wrote: post #151

We have something similar to this, Aether. https://getaether.net . (code at github.com/nehbit/aether) Always glad to see more eyeballs on the space, so I wish then the best. Here are a few differences I can see at the first glance: - Aether is decentralised (as in torrent) this appears to be federated. That means Aether truly has no servers and every user is a peer, while federated means there are smaller ‘Reddits’ a…

What does it mean the communities are ephemeral? Because reddit archives is one their strengths. Public Slack channels are lame to me because of their limits.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by pnako »

pjc50 wrote: post #174
strombofulous wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't imagine thinking reddit is right-wing in any way whatsoever. Just looking at the front page (/r/all) I counted five explicitly left-leaning posts (on subreddits like /r/whitepeopletwitter), three that alluded to left-leaning subjects in a positive way (such as a post on /r/atheism), and 0 posts that even came close to kind of sounding like it might have been right-leaning. And this doesn't even consider the c…

This needs a larger comment, but the "intellectual right" has largely self-destructed, leaving the focus entirely on white supremacy, homophobia, anti-contraception, anti-abortion, global warming denial, and weird conspiracy theories in general. It's pointless trying to be a "respectable" right wing intellectual because you have to spend all your time running around justifying the completely incoherent things that Tr…

This is just you choosing which part of right-wing ideas you like. I could make the exact same argument with the left.

"Yeah, saving trees and whales sounds fine, but they should stop it with all the LGBTQ, BLM, socialist stuff"

You can't have a civil discussion with those people either. In fact it's getting increasingly difficult to have civil discussions with anyone (HN is an exception because everyone is on their best behaviour, but to a large extent this results in self-censorship; you can see that the least politically correct comments are made with throw-away accounts).

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by comex »

rglullis wrote: post #196
rolleiflex wrote: post #151

We have something similar to this, Aether. https://getaether.net . (code at github.com/nehbit/aether) Always glad to see more eyeballs on the space, so I wish then the best. Here are a few differences I can see at the first glance: - Aether is decentralised (as in torrent) this appears to be federated. That means Aether truly has no servers and every user is a peer, while federated means there are smaller ‘Reddits’ a…

> By another proxy, this means Aether avoids the issue of having a ‘middle management’ (...) so no one can control what you see. This right here is the main thing that will never let any fully-decentralized system become mainstream. Two problems: - Most people do want "middle-management". They don't want to deal with security risks, technical issues, understanding how the protocol works just to be able to share memes…

> Those that want to keep full control over their system can easily do with a federated system: they just run their own instances.

Is running your own instance hard? Then at best you’ll inevitably have some users who lack the know-how or time to set up their own instance. At worst, federated systems often link identity to home instance, so you can’t switch to a new instance without giving up your profile. Or they may even require other instances to have a human agree to federate with you, which is a big ask for a one-person instance.

Or is running your own instance easy? So easy that anyone can do it? Then there should be no disadvantage in bundle that into the client app so that everyone does do it. But now you have a decentralized system.

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