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Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by evan_ »

sampo wrote: post #113
strombofulous wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't imagine thinking reddit is right-wing in any way whatsoever. Just looking at the front page (/r/all) I counted five explicitly left-leaning posts (on subreddits like /r/whitepeopletwitter), three that alluded to left-leaning subjects in a positive way (such as a post on /r/atheism), and 0 posts that even came close to kind of sounding like it might have been right-leaning. And this doesn't even consider the c…

> /r/the_donald They shut it down. 0 new posts for past 3 months.

Reddit didn't shut them down, the mods of r/t_d set it to only approved posters and nobody is approved.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by TulliusCicero »

vinay427 wrote: post #6
benbristow wrote: post #4

Looks nice. Really fast webapp too. Congrats team! Looking forward to tracking this project's development.

You're not kidding. This webapp is so fast (after the initial load) that I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the Reddit mobile website intentionally adds sleeps/delays as some have jokingly suspected in the past. On this site, I can actually scroll through posts or collapse comment threads without wondering if my touch input and/or browser are frozen.

A brand new site doesn't have many features yet. The more features you add the slower it'll get.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by toomuchtodo »

antepodius wrote: post #163
ralusek wrote: post #93

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Yes. Even just the existence of different subreddits with different moderation policies is already close to a perfect solution. I don't understand why people are so hellbent on getting subreddits that exceed their tolerances removed from the platform. There are orders of magnitude more subreddits that I ignore altogether than the ones that I choose to subscribe to.

Because it isn't about protecting yourself from harm, it's about attacking people you hate.

Speaking only of the US legal framework, hate speech is still free speech. Ignore speech you prefer not to consume instead of supporting the curtailment of rights.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by pjc50 »

strombofulous wrote: post #103
as1mov wrote: post #100

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Agreed, but at least reddit is unique in that it seems to get accused of being accused of both kinds of extremism, Tumble/Twitter/HN seem to think it's a right wing shithole, while the 4chan/Imageboard ilk thinks it's a leftie propaganda machine. That's not the case with the alternatives, most tend to go really hard on one side of the extremism scale (right: voat, left: raddle).

I can't imagine thinking reddit is right-wing in any way whatsoever. Just looking at the front page (/r/all) I counted five explicitly left-leaning posts (on subreddits like /r/whitepeopletwitter), three that alluded to left-leaning subjects in a positive way (such as a post on /r/atheism), and 0 posts that even came close to kind of sounding like it might have been right-leaning. And this doesn't even consider the c…

This needs a larger comment, but the "intellectual right" has largely self-destructed, leaving the focus entirely on white supremacy, homophobia, anti-contraception, anti-abortion, global warming denial, and weird conspiracy theories in general.

It's pointless trying to be a "respectable" right wing intellectual because you have to spend all your time running around justifying the completely incoherent things that Trump is talking about.

Chicago school economics? You can have a discussion with that, and leave it civil. That doesn't work with the_donald.

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by moomin »

CM30 wrote: post #110
as1mov wrote: post #76

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It's a weird issue honestly. I've been on reddit for almost a decade, and I don't like what it has become. I would love to switch to a better alternative, but the problem is any alternative that pops up seems to be filled with extremists as soon as it starts. This doesn't imply that anyone who wants to leave reddit is a neo-nazi, a lot of us are stuck with reddit because everything else is filled with shit.

The best way to stop an alternative becoming filled with extremists is to start it off as a community for a specific audience, then expand to a more general one later on. Twitch and Discord did well there for instance. Started out as gaming focused, then became more mainstream. By doing this, you bring in non extremists early on, and tilt the audience pecentages in such a way that most regulars aren't such extremists…

This is a seriously good observation. To add to it: moderation is _the_ hard problem of discussion forums. A nine year old can write a discussion board in python, any five decent developers can write one that scales reasonably. Or, you know, copy an open source codebase. Way harder is getting any actual users, but even that’s nothing compared to community maintenance.

Saying you have no moderation is attractive to one crowd in particular (there are other people who theoretically favour it, but practically they’ll use a moderated forum anyway). So you get a quick numbers boost but you’ve now fundamentally limited your audience to people prepared to share head-space with that crowd.

Reddit, Facebook and Twitter got in early and got to spend a lot of time learning on the job. Unless you start small, you’re not going to get that luxury now.

(Please don’t take this as an endorsement of any particular moderation policy, in theory or practice. Most of them are kind of awful at times. But the problem is hard.)

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by pelasaco »

commandlinefan wrote: post #123
as1mov wrote: post #76

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It's a weird issue honestly. I've been on reddit for almost a decade, and I don't like what it has become. I would love to switch to a better alternative, but the problem is any alternative that pops up seems to be filled with extremists as soon as it starts. This doesn't imply that anyone who wants to leave reddit is a neo-nazi, a lot of us are stuck with reddit because everything else is filled with shit.

> I would love to switch to a better alternative I would love to switch to Reddit from 2008.

I would love to switch to the World from 2008...

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by encom »

sampo wrote: post #113
strombofulous wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't imagine thinking reddit is right-wing in any way whatsoever. Just looking at the front page (/r/all) I counted five explicitly left-leaning posts (on subreddits like /r/whitepeopletwitter), three that alluded to left-leaning subjects in a positive way (such as a post on /r/atheism), and 0 posts that even came close to kind of sounding like it might have been right-leaning. And this doesn't even consider the c…

> /r/the_donald They shut it down. 0 new posts for past 3 months.

Yes, they moved to https://thedonald.win/

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by antepodius »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #173
antepodius wrote: post #163

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Because it isn't about protecting yourself from harm, it's about attacking people you hate.

Speaking only of the US legal framework, hate speech is still free speech. Ignore speech you prefer not to consume instead of supporting the curtailment of rights.

No, I mean it's about removing people you hate's ability to speak to each other (and to you) in a completely legal manner, by getting reddit to destroy the place where they congregate and hounding them out of the digital cities.

The answer, of course, is that these people should build their own cities. But first, of course, they'll just have to build their own websites, servers, datacentres, ISPs, and nations.

(And militaries, to stop USGOV from killing them all, presuming they dare challenge the banks by building alternatives to traditional payment processors.)

Re: Lemmy, an open-source federated Reddit alternative, gets funding for development

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Post by throwvid19 »

paulv wrote: post #170
throwvid19 wrote: post #138

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Most social sites lean left, and far-left dialog is generally tolerated in those places, while anything right of center is demonized in a gradient of intensity the further right you go. Your own scenarios exhibit this, for example: - You ask if the far-right are magnitudes more vocal, ignoring the comparison to the extremely vocal far-left which is heard regularly on mainstream social media - You conflate "conservati…

> The far-right, on the other hand, I think is a lot more tolerant of at least the notion that "other" speech exists. They'll insult you, make fun, etc., but the compulsion to censor others is far less frequent. The right thinks explicit "censorship", which happens via the community or site owner, is bad. Implicit "censorship", however, which happens when the targets of racism/sexism/homophobia/transphobia[0] leave t…

Well put.

The Left typically wants to silence/ignore while the Right typically wants to fight/berate about it.

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