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Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Older article, but apparently Pakistan carts its nuclear weapons around in regular delivery vans: https://www.wired.com/2011/11/pakistan-nukes-delivery-vans/ I personally think this is a bad idea.

The Brits moved the plutonium or HEU (don’t remember which) for their first bomb around in quite ordinary lorries: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk_zpjK3cTo I’m not saying it’s a good idea, but there’s certainly precedent.

The British still use trucks to transport their nuclear weapons. Search online for "TCHD Convoy" for some pictures. America also continues to use trucks, in some contexts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Nuclear_Material_Trans...

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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From the preliminary report: 'At 500 ft, the FDR indicates: landing gear retracted, slat/flap configuration 3, airspeed 220 knots IAS, descent rate 2000 ft/min. According to the FDR and CVR recordings several warnings and alerts such as over-speed, landing gear not down and ground proximity alerts were disregarded. The landing was undertaken with landing gears retracted. The aircraft touched the runway surface on its…

This channel has done an excellent job of analyzing the available data [1] https://youtu.be/76osJupy_P8?t=16 and the latest [2] https://youtu.be/xu69Lkf9BYc?t=8

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Anything can break in a plane which is why you design redundancy into the system. You could provide a manual override switch too.. but at least it would be a conscious act done by the pilot who is aware of the situation. I can't believe anyone is defending the current UI given we have an obvious example right in front of us of how it can fail.

I think people are fixating on one problem here as an example of how broken the UI is. What about the problem where a pilot gets great down, does a go around, and forgets to put the gear up? In this case, how could anyone defend not having the plane out the gear up automatically, with warnings? Just because we have an "obvious example right in front of us" does not mean it is the only failure mode that needs to be co…

Thank you. There is lots of room for improvement. Why everyone is so intent on defending the status-quo given its obvious deficiencies is mind boggling.

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Older article, but apparently Pakistan carts its nuclear weapons around in regular delivery vans: https://www.wired.com/2011/11/pakistan-nukes-delivery-vans/ I personally think this is a bad idea.

I mean their own Pakistani government is known for harboring terrorists and it is also where Bin Laden was found. It's not the best of countries.

Osama was CIA friend in past. Kindly don't stirr useless debate.

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Ukraine is an excellent example of this. They voluntarily relinquished their nuclear weapons, and now Russian troops have invaded the eastern part of the country.

I’m not so sure that nuclear weapons would help in these kinds of regional conflicts against Russia. It’s not that Russia officially invaded Ukraine (although in practice it did), but it stirred up local population (of largely Russian ethnicity) and then gave them logistical support and protection. So, if Ukraine had nuclear weapons, what would it do with it? Strike Russia, who has many more nuclear warheads, and str…

> Strike Russia, who has many more nuclear warheads, and stronger anti-nuclear protection?

Yes, what's use of a superweapon if you can't make use of it?

From my childhood experience, some times you need to commit without reservations to completely hopeless, no chance fights, as the only hope for a way out. Strong adversaries often don't expect the weak to even attempt to fight back.

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It's not a completely illogical approach. An armored convoy stands out like a sore thumb in Rawalpindi. An ordinary slightly beat up, 6-8 year old Suzuki Bolan does not. Maybe send out a few decoy high security vehicles with uniformed crews going in a few different directions, and then send out the Bolan going elsewhere. Bolan: https://www.google.com/search?q=suzuki+bolan&client=ubuntu&h...

In software circles, this is called "security by obscurity" and is frowned upon. And if it's a bad idea with software, I'd argue it's also a bad idea with nuclear weapons.

Pakistani nuclear command and security forces are operated as cells isolated from the civilian government and regular army for a good reason.

Executing a process covertly doesn't imply "security by obscurity".

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> No flights, so pilots can't threaten to boycott flying. But why would pilots with valid licenses boycott the government preventing pilots with fake licenses from flying? Wouldn't the valid-license pilots want this, because with less of them their salaries will go up? I can't imagine any scenario where people who passed a test would want people who didn't pass it to get the same benefits...?!?!

It is a state owned company. Pay scales are fixed, and everyone gets a fixed-known pension for life after retirement. So, getting your colleagues fired is not beneficial to you economically [1]. However, an accountability process that looks into the doing of pilots will get both valid license and invalid license holders in trouble, because I assure you, lots of valid license holders are also doing lots of other illeg…

I can assure you that those people care as little about the afterlife than the current life.

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So you want to give them more money even if you know that money is systematically misused? Pakistan will become a vessel state of China, its totally inevitable. Pakistan is 1000x more valuable to China then it could ever by for the US. The US should stop the idiotic believe that Pakistan is an ally. They simply are not, and have not been for a long time. It is well known that the support the Taliban. It is well known…

> The US should stop the idiotic believe that Pakistan is an ally. Do they actually believe it, or do they just pay lip service to that idea for realpolitik reasons? The US has repeatedly accused China of assisting Pakistan with their nuclear weapons program. It's hard for any of us to say what the truth is in that matter, but either way I don't think the potential relationship between Pakistan and China has been ign…

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Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Older article, but apparently Pakistan carts its nuclear weapons around in regular delivery vans: https://www.wired.com/2011/11/pakistan-nukes-delivery-vans/ I personally think this is a bad idea.

Didn't want to add politics to this, but i hope they get more funding for safety. Sadly, most of the funding they get from US and other Western countries is gobbled up by the Army which is the most powerful institution in the country. Their economic situation is a little worse now and it is likely they will become a vassal state of China in the future as well. China will take the role of USA in the country if it goes…

Why should foreign countries be funding them at all?

Re: Almost 1 in 3 pilots in Pakistan have fake licenses, aviation minister says

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Is there any kind of indicator in the cockpit to remind the pilot? A light? A voice (like the stall voice), that says, "Hey doofus, you're descending and close to landing, so LOWER THE GEAR!"

A friend of mine that years ago (pre-F-18) was a carrier-rated Navy fighter pilot had, after he got out, flown a Mooney for a couple decades. His wife also a pilot. He always went down the checklist verbally, every time. One time on approach he said: “Gear down. Three in the green.” meaning gear down and locked indicator on all three wheels. His wife said: “You do not have three in the green.” The human brain is a fu…

Yeah - checklists can become almost a chant, more music than informational.

"Pointing and calling" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_and_calling) appears to address this.

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