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What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Re: What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

rahkiin wrote: post #69
dimmke wrote: post #65

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I agree, any change will be frowned upon. It just annoys me that I feel like they're drawing the completely wrong conclusions. Apple was the company that dropped the headphone jack from their phone, shipped a laptop with only USB-C ports etc... they don't shy away from making big controversial decisions if they feel like it's good for them. If Apple was going to do this to MacOS, they'd have already done it. They wou…

I am mostly upset about the low contrast. I hope that gets improved before release. And sad about the change in sheets and alerts... I’ll probably get over that.

While not an excuse, the design looks like it has much more contrast than 10.10 - 10.15.

Re: What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Post by microcolonel »

ghettoimp wrote: post #204

I really wish there were consistent title-bars. Windows 95 nailed this. It's really nice to immediately know where to click to move something out of your way.

There is so much that Windows 95 got right that the snoots coming out of design college with funny haircuts have been trying their darnedest to get wrong.

Re: What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Post by ghaff »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #215
ghaff wrote: post #209

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>On the one hand, this enables them to do bold things and endure incredible criticism before being proven right. The iPod, no optical disks, bundled GPUs, AirPods, etc. When the iPad first came out: "OMG, you can't print! How insane." Probably forgetting other things. Apple does a ton of things wrong and arguably forces some changes before a lot of the world is ready for them. But they've never prioritized supporting…

> When the iPad first came out: "OMG, you can't print! How insane." Probably forgetting other things. I very much don't recall anyone complaining about printer support. The primary jab at launch was "it's just a big iPhone". Which was in fact true—it just turned out that "a big iPhone" was pretty damn good, especially when actual iPhones had 3.5" screens. I'd say most of these sorts of complaints are basically legiti…

I'm not going to spend the time to look but there were definitely complaints about printing which was still much more of a thing than it is today. (It's still sometimes annoying with both iPad and Chromebook but it's occasional enough that I just mail what I need printed to a computer.)

The thing for me with the original iPad was coming to the realization that it was a (very nice) luxury device that was mostly useful for me (at the time) when traveling. And, when I gave one to my dad, it was a revelation relative to computers that he never could really use.

Re: What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Post by pouta »

3131s wrote: post #182
Insanity wrote: post #78

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I feel exposed :D. I really enjoy using XFCE and run it on all my machines.

You should feel proud. I pull in some XFCE packages to compliment my i3 desktop and it's absolutely great. MATE and LXQt are two other comparably simple desktop environments that I like. I get comments from my bewildered MacOS-using friends when they see that my 400$ Linux machine is faster than anything they've ever tried.

Where should I start in order to learn this superpower?

Re: What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Post by chongli »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #137
codyb wrote: post #123

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This is a bit off topic but in regards to contrast, I’ve been using Apple’s Music program lately and I absolutely cannot tell the difference between shuffle/repeat on or off. It is the lowest amount of contrast I have ever seen on a toggled button. I figure it must be something with my machine but haven’t really delved too deeply and couldn’t find much when I looked. Was hoping for a bit more out of Music. It’s decen…

I don't think it's your machine, although I hadn't tested this until now because I almost never use shuffle. :) I think the problem is that they're indicating state by toggling between your chosen accent color and black. If your accent color is, say, pink, the difference is pretty obvious, but if your accent color is relatively dark, like blue or purple, it's harder to see. It seems like they could solve this by togg…

Thank you! I just changed my accent colour to green and now it’s easy to tell the difference.

Re: What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Post by AnonC »

Yhippa wrote: post #59
dijit wrote: post #23

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I like borders on my buttons to know what is a button and what isn't, this feels.. backwards... So much has to be inferred from the way things used to be, makes it harder to argue that it's the "simpler" operating system designed for Humans with a keen eye on UX design.. FWIW I also think the flat UI on iPhone (which has been prevelant for >6y now) is a horror show. Steve Jobs famously once said (while working at NeX…

I remember the transition from iOS 6 to 7. It definitely initially looked modern but I still sometimes have difficulty distinguishing between a label and a button.

Though Apple isn’t relenting on this front in the default experience, you can change the appearance in Accessibility options (look for Button Shape). That could help keep these distinct and easier to recognize.

Re: What’s New in macOS Big Sur: Human Interface Guidelines

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #181
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #149

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I'm genuinely curious: why do you want to create new directories at the root level? Is this something you're just used to doing and it breaks your customary way of working? Is it a "general principle" thing (which I suspect is a lot of the objection the HN crowd really has at the root, no pun intended)? I've been using OS X-based Macs since 2002 and used Linux and FreeBSD for a decade before that, and I don't recall…

> why do you want to create new directories at the root level? Why not? It's his system, he should be able to do whatever he likes. On most Linux I can rm -rf / all day long and nobody cares. What's the problem with creating root level directories?

I didn't say there was a problem with it; I just asked what the reason for wanting it was.

> On most Linux I can rm -rf / all day long and nobody cares.

So let me turn this around: Why do you think a system that doesn't make it difficult to completely destroy it with one command is a bad idea? "It's my system, I should be able to do whatever I like" is an answer, to be sure.

(N.B.: in fact, "rm -rf /" won't work without "--no-preserve-root" in most Linux distributions, AFAIK, and I presume sudo.)

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