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It seems very busy. I wonder what the average ago of a macbook user is.

My first thought was how childish it looked. Reminds me of a sanitized children's book somehow.

Your probably don't reember the 'lickable' Aqua interface of OS X 10.2. Personally, I loved the gum-drop buttons, but there were a lot of naysayers.

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I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.

People on this site always comment negatively on literally anything related to UI except if it looks like it was made in the 90s. Absolutely zero sense of perspective or open-mindedness.

I don't think this is a very charitable take. Many people, myself included, consider change for the sake of change a cost, not a benefit.

The less I think about my keyboard layout or system UI widgets the better. I can see why someone might like the novelty of those changing but for me they are just a means to an end. Any time I spend hunting around menus that have changed or fiddling with a novel keyboard means less time for things that I actually care about.

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The Touch Bar is honestly by least favorite aspect of anything Apple has done in recent memory. My touch bar had dead pixels (twice), effectively wiping out half the function keys. And when it did work, it was hard to use. I've been using my MBP as a desktop for the past 8+ months, and while it's slightly better experience, it still sucks that I'm stuck having to buy 3 USB adapters just to make it usable.

I know this answer is "buy something else to make your life eaiser" but hear me out - either a USB-C monitor, or a thunderbolt dock. I got a USB-C monitor last time I upgraded (LG 27" 4K) and having a single cable to plug in, which not only carries the display signal, but also charges my MBP, AND carries the USB signal so that I can plug wired keyboard and anything else into the hub in the monitor still feels ridicul…

Any recommendations on a TB3 dock? I recently searched for one, and none of the top rated ones can support a 16" MBP power requirements. One of the manufacturers even went as far as saying "How often do you really use your CPU/GPU at 100%?"[0]

Dell and HP have higher powered docks, but there are many conflicting reports on if it can deliver 96W to non-dell/hp laptops.

TB3/USB-C is a giant mess that is too confusing for even techies to reliably navigate.

[0] - https://www.caldigit.com/using-the-16-macbook-pro-with-the-c...

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I just love the changes they did to the menubar. Adaptive background and extra padding on the menu items are both great changes I don't like the new dock design. Maybe they'll change it back to the old dock if the feedback is vocal?

Lots of extra padding everywhere which makes me think a touchscreen Mac is coming out soon. The extra padding is out of character for Apple designs unless they need the space for your fingers to not mash more than one item at a time.

touchscreen mac already exists, it's just still called an iPad and still runs beefed-up phone software. The merge is coming in the next couple years. Tim Cook said the ARM transition would be 2 years, so I'm guessing that means 2022 or '23 has an apple tablet device running the same OS as apple laptop/desktop devices.

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Maybe I missed it, but did they say they're requiring Mac apps to start standardizing design? If not, then I see no reason why the default OS apps that come pre-installed shouldn't look and feel the same.

> then I see no reason why the default OS apps that come pre-installed shouldn't look and feel the same. The same as each other , or the same as their mobile touchscreen counterparts?

I'd say both. If I'm a user who's all in on the Apple ecosystem, it seems like a nice plus that the out of the box apps can be expected to look similar and work similarly, whether I'm on my phone or my laptop.

There's certainly ways to screw that up, I won't deny that. But I think it's an inherently good direction to aim for. In my mind, that means (1) making sure that functionality is synced whenever possible (the lack of iMessage functionality on macOS after it was enhanced on iOS has bugged me for years), and (2) matching the look and feel to make the macOS version (or iOS version) feel familiar the first time you use the app if you've previously used the alternate platform's equivalent.

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It’s possible they will do both. Fixing bugs isn’t really keynote worthy, so hopefully there’s a ton of stability fixes behind the scenes.

It was keynote-worthy for Snow Leopard, with the infamous "0 new features" slide.

That’s why I have hopes for them to come back and square up the Mac platform to where it should be for stability and usability. They could have been treating the whole platform as a beta for what they want to make of it after the move to their own silicon for many years now - perhaps even a decade. They’ve been well financed for as long. They also seem to have something like institutional anti-ADHD in so far as they can really only “nail” one product down well at a time.

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I'm not sure why I continue to look forward to new Mac OS announcements every year when Apple continues to focus on consumer apps/features and not pro/developer features. Literally nothing in that preview page excites me as someone that uses Mac OS mainly for developing software. I wish they would use WWDC to announce developer and pro features and not consumer OS features. I don't really care for the UI changes, but…

Take a look at the State of the Union–it's in less than an hour. It's the developer-focused keynote.

Tbh it is less developer focused than I expected

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Never underestimate the Internet's ability to see the worse in any Apple announcement. Apple announces something you don't want? They are ignoring the vital issues and focusing only on dumb superficial things which just proves they are going down hill. Apple announces something you do want? Should have happened years ago, and the fact that they've only gotten to it now just proves they are going down hill.

Apple unfairly gets a lot of hate, but please don't discount that the developer experience on MacOS has been pretty bad lately, and the lack of enterprise support means some folks are stuck on Apples slightly out of their use case, and with their fair share of problems.

I don't know, just Catalyst and Swift/UI alone are making my life as a developer much easier and nicer.

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I know this answer is "buy something else to make your life eaiser" but hear me out - either a USB-C monitor, or a thunderbolt dock. I got a USB-C monitor last time I upgraded (LG 27" 4K) and having a single cable to plug in, which not only carries the display signal, but also charges my MBP, AND carries the USB signal so that I can plug wired keyboard and anything else into the hub in the monitor still feels ridicul…

Any recommendations on a TB3 dock? I recently searched for one, and none of the top rated ones can support a 16" MBP power requirements. One of the manufacturers even went as far as saying "How often do you really use your CPU/GPU at 100%?"[0] Dell and HP have higher powered docks, but there are many conflicting reports on if it can deliver 96W to non-dell/hp laptops. TB3/USB-C is a giant mess that is too confusing f…

Looking at the link, if you peg the CPU and GPU to 100% even the charger that comes with the MBP will struggle.

Another 100w option is the Targus dock - https://us.targus.com/products/usb-c-universal-quad-4k-docki...

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It’s possible they will do both. Fixing bugs isn’t really keynote worthy, so hopefully there’s a ton of stability fixes behind the scenes.

I've also seen it reacted to very negatively when announced.

I don’t remember this but it’s credible. Can you dredge your any links from back then?
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