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Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by csomar »

I made the switch to Linux as my main OS for software development in the last month (archlinux with AMD Ryzen on a custom built box) and I'm not regretting it.

For a comparison, here is the Press Release for Snow Leopard (https://www.apple.com/ca/newsroom/2009/06/08Apple-Unveils-Ma... here is an excerpt from the text

> For the first time, system applications including Finder, Mail, iCal®, iChat® and Safari are 64-bit and Snow Leopard’s support for 64-bit processors makes use of large amounts of RAM, increases performance, and improves security while remaining compatible with 32-bit applications. Grand Central Dispatch (GCD) provides a revolutionary new way for software to take advantage of multicore processors. GCD is integrated throughout Snow Leopard, from new system-wide APIs to high-level frameworks and programming language extensions, improving responsiveness across the system. OpenCL, a C-based open standard, allows developers to tap the incredible power of the graphics processing unit for tasks that go beyond graphics.

Simple, useful information. Information and features that matters to software developers.

Instead in this new macOS we got: Safari, Messages and Maps. Apps that are not that much relevant (since people are too hooked in Firefox/Chrome, Fb/Ig, and Google Maps). If Apple wants to gain marketshare in these areas, that's fine. But they are pushing them to their base as a macOS upgrade. Huh.

The only thing related to developers is XCode "improvements". I guess the message is pretty clear now: The macOS is now only good to develop iOS apps and maybe do graphics/audio/video. If you are a web/sys developer it might be a good idea to start looking for something else.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by lou1306 »

swagonomixxx wrote: post #133
cytzol wrote: post #52

I was really hoping they'd take some time to address Catalina's glaring issues — its slowness, bugginess, just general sloppiness — and instead they did the opposite. Honestly, every time Apple has done anything with the Mac the past couple of years, they've screwed it up. The infamous keyboards that they doubled-down and then tripled-down upon (I have personally had five keyboard replacements). The way Catalina send…

> The way Catalina sends the hash of every binary you run to Apple. Wait, what?! What are you referring to here? I just updated to Catalina and I wasn't aware of this.

App notarization works by hashing binaries and sending said hashes to Apple. Here you go: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/catalina-executables.htm...

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by nicoburns »

mmcconnell1618 wrote: post #70
quantummkv wrote: post #20

I just love the changes they did to the menubar. Adaptive background and extra padding on the menu items are both great changes I don't like the new dock design. Maybe they'll change it back to the old dock if the feedback is vocal?

Lots of extra padding everywhere which makes me think a touchscreen Mac is coming out soon. The extra padding is out of character for Apple designs unless they need the space for your fingers to not mash more than one item at a time.

That could actually be pretty great. Especially if it's essentially a dockable iPad running macOS.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by swagonomixxx »

css wrote: post #17

Scrolling this site with a mouse is comically bad, this is clearly designed to be used only with a trackpad. I cant read most of the content without very carefully scrolling unnaturally. You also have to pause for the animations to play, but if you scroll one pixel too far they don't play, so its a guessing game of whether you're in the right place or whether you missed some content.

Came here to say this. I don't get this kind of web page design. It absolutely sucks if you actually want content. I have to scroll a specific amount on my mouse in order to get content for that particular scroll distance. Just comically bad.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by tebruno99 »

swagonomixxx wrote: post #133
cytzol wrote: post #52

I was really hoping they'd take some time to address Catalina's glaring issues — its slowness, bugginess, just general sloppiness — and instead they did the opposite. Honestly, every time Apple has done anything with the Mac the past couple of years, they've screwed it up. The infamous keyboards that they doubled-down and then tripled-down upon (I have personally had five keyboard replacements). The way Catalina send…

> The way Catalina sends the hash of every binary you run to Apple. Wait, what?! What are you referring to here? I just updated to Catalina and I wasn't aware of this.

It was all the rage in news a few weeks ago, and it is true. Apple sends the hash of every script and executable you run as part of its notification process (even command line commands & scripts)

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by impalallama »

SenHeng wrote: post #84

I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.

Never underestimate the Internet's ability to see the worse in any Apple announcement.

Apple announces something you don't want? They are ignoring the vital issues and focusing only on dumb superficial things which just proves they are going down hill.

Apple announces something you do want? Should have happened years ago, and the fact that they've only gotten to it now just proves they are going down hill.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by Fej »

WA9ACE wrote: post #96
frou_dh wrote: post #25

I'm wondering if this is the release where OpenGL goes from deprecated to fully removed. Presumably Apple didn't want to write OpenGL drivers (full, not ES) for their in-house GPUs.

I wonder how this will affect java minecraft on the mac. Does LWJGL have a Metal backend?

It does not appear to have a Metal backend - just OpenGL and Vulkan.

From what I can tell, commercial game devs treat Mac gaming as an edge case and mostly only the large engine devs care about Metal support (with exceptions, of course).

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by Yhippa »

I was pretty pleased about the WWDC keynote except for when it came to macOS. My experience with updates and new features hasn't been pleasant the past four or so years. I'm frightened to see what things this feature update will bring.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

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Post by wtallis »

dave5104 wrote: post #126
AlexandrB wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms This is not a positive. A laptop is not a big iPhone and shouldn't use the same design language. One of the worst thing about Windows 10 is its use of huge, touch-friendly interfaces in an OS most commonly used with a keyboard and mouse. MacOS appears to be headed the same way (and it doesn't even support touch screens).

Maybe I missed it, but did they say they're requiring Mac apps to start standardizing design? If not, then I see no reason why the default OS apps that come pre-installed shouldn't look and feel the same.

> then I see no reason why the default OS apps that come pre-installed shouldn't look and feel the same.

The same as each other, or the same as their mobile touchscreen counterparts?

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