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Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#171

I'm getting the impression that Apple wants to merge the desktop/iOS/iPad platforms long term if you look at all the recent updates together.

They've said in the past couple years in interviews that this is a bad idea - a bad direction to follow - and they don't intend to do it.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#172
post #34

The UI and UX seem to be getting worse on macOS with the “iOSification” of the OS. I thought Jony Ive’s exit would stop that trend. It’ll be interesting to read perspectives from John Gruber, M J Tsai, Marco Arment, etc. I still haven’t upgraded from Mojave to Catalina because of serious bugs reported by other people (including data loss issues in Mail). I’ll see if Big Sur shows improvements (reported by others) and…

Personally I’ve had zero issues upgrading to Catalina, it seems to perform better than Mojave for me, and more stable too.

I've had tons of graphics issues (lockups, glitches), and it seems i'm not alone [0][1].

[0] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/constant-kernel-panics-...

[1] https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/strange-chrome-browser-...

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#174
post #54

So the "About this Mac" screen says "Version 11.0" ... A silent farewell to OS X?

What was "silent" about it? They made a big song & dance of dropping the X last year. This just makes it even more official.

That was dropping the X from the name, not changing the major version number from 10 to 11. It's had a major version number of 10 ever since the first release of OS X. Most people assumed the actual version number would stay at 10.x.x forever, regardless of any changes to the marketing name of the OS itself.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#175
post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think developers should always start on this page instead of the keynote: https://developer.apple.com/macos/ EDIT: Also meant to point out that every year they have a theme - this year is apparently all interface (as they've probably spent all there time getting ARM working smoothly, and want to minimize the plumbing issues).

Thanks for the link.

You're welcome. I learned this a couple years ago. WWDC keynote is a high level overview of new features for everyone, and you have to dig deeper for the stuff we're really interested in. I think this is a sign that their ecosystem has matured, and the developer aspects aren't as headline worthy as Swift, Metal, Carbon, etc.

I personally think the Platforms State of the Union should be quite interesting today (starts in about 20 minutes) and will be much more insightful.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#176
post #84

I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.

Finding the negatives is basically a hobby for a lot of the hot takers.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#177

I hate that they’re moving to a design where buttons don’t have borders and textures, don’t provide any visual guidances on what’s a button and what’s not. But I absolutely despise them for making iOS apps installable on macOS. That’s... just terrible. This WWDC just felt like that Apple decided that macOS should get merged with iOS and converged them. The Mac doesn’t have a future...

On iOS the Universal Access setting "Button Shapes" and "Differentiate Without Color" seem like the sort of options designed to address these objections. It seems possible they'd end up in Big Sur, though I can't say for sure yet.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#178
post #84

I’m surprised at all the negative takes. I thought it was refreshing, they’re reintroducing colours and icons, cleaning up and using a consistent design language across platforms, and introducing new, well tested convenience features.

Never underestimate the Internet's ability to see the worse in any Apple announcement. Apple announces something you don't want? They are ignoring the vital issues and focusing only on dumb superficial things which just proves they are going down hill. Apple announces something you do want? Should have happened years ago, and the fact that they've only gotten to it now just proves they are going down hill.

Apple unfairly gets a lot of hate, but please don't discount that the developer experience on MacOS has been pretty bad lately, and the lack of enterprise support means some folks are stuck on Apples slightly out of their use case, and with their fair share of problems.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#179
post #34

The UI and UX seem to be getting worse on macOS with the “iOSification” of the OS. I thought Jony Ive’s exit would stop that trend. It’ll be interesting to read perspectives from John Gruber, M J Tsai, Marco Arment, etc. I still haven’t upgraded from Mojave to Catalina because of serious bugs reported by other people (including data loss issues in Mail). I’ll see if Big Sur shows improvements (reported by others) and…

Yeah, the design is far too “bubbly” and “floaty” and really doesn’t fit what I’d want out of a desktop environment.

Re: macOS Big Sur Preview

#180
post #11

Oh god that new Mail app looks disgusting. Reminds me of a shitty Electron app, that kind of design.

Anyone who uses Exchange servers or Office 365 should switch to Outlook. It's like the grown-up, adult brother of Apple's mail client.
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