You download the app and it doesn’t work

Post by jacobwilliamroy » Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 11:11 PM UTC

wldlyinaccurate wrote: post #149

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #128

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I can use Google Chrome, and still use a non-Google search engine. I can use a Kindle, and still read DRM-Free epubs. Yes, all the major tech companies are engaged in rent seeking. But Apple is the only one that says users must either must pay rent or throw away their hardware. The App Store and its policies are not the problem. The App Store is Apple's store, just like Amazon.com is Amazon's store. But the App Store…

Doesn't Android have the same problem? If your app isn't in the Play Store, it may as well not exist.

Post by zaroth » Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 11:12 PM UTC

mikenew wrote: post #118

I've been a freelance iOS app developer for almost a decade. Apple has always operated this way. They have rules that are somewhat vague, and they choose when they want to enforce them and how they should be interpreted. For example: you weren't allowed to show device bezels in app store screenshots for a long time, even though all the major apps did exactly that. If you were a small time developer though you would g…

Post by listenallyall » Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 11:13 PM UTC

breakfastduck wrote: post #83

013a wrote: post #69

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I do too. But, a better middle-ground needs to be found which services both consumers and developers. It could literally be as simple as something closer to a 90/10 split.

There wouldn't be uproar if it was 10%. Everything else is perfectly reasonable but taking a 30% cut is extreme.

Post by parsimo2010 » Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 11:13 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #148

parsimo2010 wrote: post #52

I think there needs to be some distinction between apps that are the main product (or close to it) and apps that support another product (like there is npo point to having the app by itself, you should already have gotten the product/account before downloading the app). I don't know too much about Apple's rules to know if they use that criteria, but it makes sense to me. An app to manage your Tesla makes no sense unl…

> one other thing I haven't seen whether Basecamp could just charge $141.43 per year if someone pays through Apple, so Basecamp would get $99 per year after Apple takes their 30% cut. They could. > People that don't care about money could sign up in-app, but most people will sign up outside the app. The problem is that the iOS app cannot in any way or form mention that a) you can pay for the subscription outside the…

Post by scarface74 » Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 11:13 PM UTC

hyperpape wrote: post #72

MattGaiser wrote: post #53

One of the problems is that as a consumer, I like the features Apple implements with this. I can just use Apple Pay instead of handing over my credit card. Don't want a subscription? No complicated process. No need to call a number. No need to email anyone. I just click to cancel and I am done. As lousy as this is, the consumer experience is dramatically improved.

I think this point is worth highlighting. Although I'm not at all on Apple's side here, they are offering something of value. What galls is that they're demanding 15-30% of all revenue for it. Payment processing simply isn't that costly, and I doubt the app store is that expensive either.