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Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by bretthoerner »

bad_user wrote: post #275
bretthoerner wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> like in Chrome you can't search your history and delete items in the search results, which I think is retarded as your only option is to purge your entire history Sure you can. Control-H or Menu->History. > Firefox plugins can do pretty much anything -- Chrome plugins are basically useless. It's worth noting that Firefox is working on adding Chrome-like 'useless' extensions to their browser. https://jetpack.mozilla…

Sure you can. Control-H or Menu->History No you CANNOT. Mozilla is basically funded by Google affiliate payments That doesn't say much or anything at all. Mozilla wasn't founded by Google and could always find other sources of revenue. Also, Mozilla isn't a public company with shareholders, it's also not a company masked as a non-profit to evade taxes, which means Mozilla's interest isn't profit, just survival. It's…

> No you CANNOT.

Well, with elaborate replies like that ... I'm not sure whether I should bother, but: http://i.imgur.com/rxFgd.png

> Greasemonkey

Chrome plugins can do a lot more than Greasemonkey. Why do you think Jetpack exists?

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by matthewn »

DarkShikari wrote: post #33

The new "menu in the upper left" seems to be rather badly designed. It's missing the "View" menu entirely, which makes it impossible for me to view non-ASCII/Unicode websites. It took me about 5 minutes of searching and frantically right-clicking to re-enable the old menu, which of course still had the View menu. On a positive note, 4 is so much faster than 3.6 it isn't even funny. It's like going from a 286 running…

If you don't mind installing an extension, "Personal Menu" will let you add the View menu and its children to the upper-left menu.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by melling »

sktrdie wrote: post #12
d0m wrote: post #2

Lets say I'm a chrome user (and loving it), is Firefox4 worth a try? What are the main differences from the last version?

The startup time of Chrome is hard to beat - I'll stick with Chrome for now.

According to LifeHacker, Firefox 4 is on par with Chrome.

http://lifehacker.com/#!5784396/browser-speed-tests-firefox-...

If startup speed is your main criteria, you want Opera.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by bad_user »

bretthoerner wrote: post #281
bad_user wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure you can. Control-H or Menu->History No you CANNOT. Mozilla is basically funded by Google affiliate payments That doesn't say much or anything at all. Mozilla wasn't founded by Google and could always find other sources of revenue. Also, Mozilla isn't a public company with shareholders, it's also not a company masked as a non-profit to evade taxes, which means Mozilla's interest isn't profit, just survival. It's…

> No you CANNOT. Well, with elaborate replies like that ... I'm not sure whether I should bother, but: http://i.imgur.com/rxFgd.png > Greasemonkey Chrome plugins can do a lot more than Greasemonkey. Why do you think Jetpack exists?

    Well, with elaborate replies like that ...
Perhaps you should bother reading what I wrote first, instead of doing screenshots to prove me wrong?

Take a look at the phrase you yourself quoted ...

    you can't search your history and delete items 
    in the search results
Do I really need to elaborate more on it?

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by mbrubeck »

henrikschroder wrote: post #278
mbrubeck wrote: post #257

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Update after talking to Mozilla graphics hacker Joe Drew: What I wrote above used to be true, but in current versions of Windows/Firefox these bugs have been fixed, and what you're seeing is probably the intended rendering. The reason it looks blurry is that Microsoft's accelerated DirectWrite API uses different font rendering than the old GDI API. The DirectWrite rendering is less agressively hinted, and looks more…

> The reason it looks blurry is that Microsoft's accelerated DirectWrite API uses different font rendering than the old GDI API. Oh. Well, that sucks, because it means that I have to choose between hardware acceleration and readable fonts. > If you don't like the look of the text rendering on our system [...] That makes no sense. First, it's for Vista and not Windows 7, and second, I've already tuned Cleartype on my…

Mozilla folks are looking into fixes for this:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mozilla.dev.platform/M4IBj...

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by mistermann »

dairem wrote: post #86
darklajid wrote: post #60

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Also - Tree Style Tab [1] is a must have for me (on 3.x for now, just checking if I'll upgrade now or wait for some of my plugins to migrate first) 1: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Yes, I'm using Tree Style Tabs on FF4 now, it's fantastic once you go over 20 or so tabs.

Do you have no issues with it on 4? Mine is very buggy, won't open child (or any other) tabs properly, they open non-visible.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by rcurses »

Casis wrote: post #269

Very nice, the UI is well designed, more screen estate. Just 2 complaints: - The colors's arrows for previous/next are not really visible - When on a laptop, I used to open a link in a new tab by right click + open in a new tab. This option was the second one in the previous firefox's version, now it's the first, so I end up opening a lot of links in new window instead of new tab, guess it's only a matter of time til…

There's an extension called "Menu Editor" that allows you to edit the context menus in Firefox. It works, but it can be confusing to use, because the context menus are... so contextual.

In your case though, you could just swap the places of the "New Window" and "New Tab" menu items.

Edit: here's a link to the extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/menu-editor/

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by kellishaver »

madelfio wrote: post #105
DarkShikari wrote: post #33

The new "menu in the upper left" seems to be rather badly designed. It's missing the "View" menu entirely, which makes it impossible for me to view non-ASCII/Unicode websites. It took me about 5 minutes of searching and frantically right-clicking to re-enable the old menu, which of course still had the View menu. On a positive note, 4 is so much faster than 3.6 it isn't even funny. It's like going from a 286 running…

Tap "Alt" and you get the normal menus (including "View"). Not very obvious, but easy once you know.

This doesn't seem to work in Ubuntu, at least not for me.

Re: Firefox 4 is here

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Post by planckscnst »

Dobbs wrote: post #112
eftpotrm wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious; in what way do you prefer Chrome's tab handling? For me it's one of the worst things about Chrome; this window currently has ten tabs open and that's at the _very_ low end for me. With Firefox I can see what I've got open no matter how many I've got because of the pop-down list and the scrolling bar, while Chrome just mashes the list into invisibility.

The big thing is just the smoothness of handling tabs. Closing a group of tabs in Chrome is a pleasure because of how it moves the tabs when you close one. Also grabbing a tab and moving it into a new window is a very clean/smooth operation. Firefox has improved a lot. 4 is a fantastic piece of software but it isn't quite as polished as Chrome is. Despite these issues I greatly prefer Firefox over Chrome. Chrome migh…

I use Multiple Tab Handler. Closing a group of tabs in FF is a simple as selecting them (click, shift+click) and closing them. This is an example of why I love Firefox - it is way more permissive with what extensions can do.
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