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GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by coldtea »

asveikau wrote: post #573
coldtea wrote: post #563

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> It's my personal opinion that when we see such a discongreguity that we should perhaps choose other words. Not really. Then we'd be changing terms established for centuries, that most people understand in their two contexts (geographical and cultural), with some new words we'd have to explain every time we use them -- so making things worse.

If I contrasted indigenous Americans with "European" culture rather than a "western" one, you would completely understand the meaning and it wouldn't be a big deal.

Not exactly.

I wouldn't know if you mean "European culture" in the sense of something unique continental European (the way Europeans have unique cultural traits different from US traits, e.g. analytical vs continental philosophy), or the shared western culture Europeans and US Americans, and Australians, etc have?

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by artsyca »

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let's get this straight -- You're doing the thing you love most in all the world, surrounded by people who feel the same way. You've gotten every perk known to man from ping pong to free booze. You're getting paid handsomely, more than any other humans on the planet. You've created a buffer zone between yourself and the client that could withstand a rocket blast from a scud missile And you are allowed to wear whateve…

I think your list applies to a select few software engineers in Silicon Valley. > You're doing the thing you love most in all the world, surrounded by people who feel the same way. The thing I love most is understanding ideas and solving cool problems. Would have stayed in academia if the jobs,job security and money were there. There is plenty of problem solving but it's not an everyday occurrence. > You've gotten ev…

The greatest professional sin is undervaluing the other person

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by kreddor »

tzs wrote: post #55
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Social network features are such a 2015 me-too fad feature anyway. What they should add is AI, or maybe blockchain.

Before adding the newest fad features, maybe the should go back and add old fads that they missed. One big fad from 50+ years ago that I'd welcome is folders. I don't want to just have all my repositories appear in a flat list ordered by time since last update. I want to make folders so I can organize repositories by topic--just like I have my repositories organized in my computer.

I agree completely. I miss folders for YouTube subscriptions as well. It seems folders are on the way out in most modern tools and apps.

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Post by sascha_sl »

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It speaks of privilege to think having a debate on this is dumb. It's literally how human beings reconcile issues. You want to outright refuse the possibility that this is an issue to begin with. If you want to keep using your colonialism-inspired language, go ahead and ignore the critics (surely you can't believe github is going to ban you over it) but do not complain about this criticism existing because it makes y…

> If you want to keep using your colonialism-inspired language It's not colonialism inspired language though. Edit: I also love the irony of invoking liberalism as a justification for silencing dissent.

You want your thing to be above criticism, who is silencing dissent here?

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Post by sascha_sl »

Veen wrote: post #363
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It speaks of privilege to think having a debate on this is dumb. It's literally how human beings reconcile issues. You want to outright refuse the possibility that this is an issue to begin with. If you want to keep using your colonialism-inspired language, go ahead and ignore the critics (surely you can't believe github is going to ban you over it) but do not complain about this criticism existing because it makes y…

The word "privilege" is derived from the Latin "privilegium" , specifically its historical medieval use in laws like the Privilegium Maius and the Privilegium Minor, both of which were legal instruments of autocracy and imperialism. I think you should reconsider your use of imperialism-inspired language. Btw. "dumb" is an ableist slur.

To the last point: It is, I'm sorry, I should pick my words more carefully.

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Post by growlist »

tekromancr wrote: post #543
kirse wrote: post #472

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what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling" A couple years ago I dubbed this trend "Flanders Computing" [1]. I haven't really given much thought about its origins, but it's probably got to do with the increasing demand for happiness that we Americans hold dear. Collectively I think it's entered the American psyche that the answer to happiness is to avoi…

> Ban things labeled "toxic", ban the boo-boos, keep everyone safe with happy feelings in this space only. But admittedly my thoughts are incomplete. I think your thoughts are incomplete. What they are missing is the knowledge of and empathy for people who are actually harmed by these behaviors.

But then plenty of the same people that seek to police speech online and to claim the moral high ground are capable of and comfortable with quite horrible and unjustified forms of harassment, e.g. extreme levels of doxxing, getting people sacked for hurty tweets, even hounding people to suicide.

Let's not pretend there aren't plenty of cynics that employ woke culture to sinister ends.

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Post by garfieldnate »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

He's just specifically talking about the "trending" list though, right? Sure, source control is just a tool, but an internet score board showing you new open source projects? That sounds like fun, to me! Showing you things that are inspiring and interesting is part of the functionality.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

garfieldnate wrote: post #608
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

He's just specifically talking about the "trending" list though, right? Sure, source control is just a tool, but an internet score board showing you new open source projects? That sounds like fun, to me! Showing you things that are inspiring and interesting is part of the functionality.

Yup, but there's waaaaay too much variety in software development to make this work for all disciplines and languages, so I will bet that it has always been optimized for JS/Full Stack.

I'm an Apple native developer. We aren't usually high on anyone's list.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

closeparen wrote: post #499
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

That’s not Github in particular though, that’s any git remote.

No, GitHub has some aspects that make it very useful for me. It's the de facto standard for sharing code, or presenting a portfolio.

It also has a great API, and people have written some nice tools for it. The API is probably not unique (or even the best one), but it is well-supported by third parties.

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