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GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by devmunchies »

asveikau wrote: post #445
whatshisface wrote: post #392

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Japan is twice as far from California going East as it is going West. The parent must be using that definition. ;)

I remember once it felt a bit jarring when I heard native American cultures contrasted with "western" ones. Surely they are more "western" than Europeans.

Native Americans and pre-Christian pagan Europeans had a lot in common. Both cultures that honor seasonal cycles, animals, nature, ancestors, animism etc.

Unfortunately “western” is now seen as the Abrahamic judeo-Christian capitalistic worldview, even though the west sprang out of pagan Greece and Rome.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by Koshkin »

bendergarcia wrote: post #454
Koshkin wrote: post #383

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Question, then, is: where does this end?

I don’t think it ever ends and I don’t think it needs to. We live the human experience which is subjective and we use language to communicate that experience. Until we become a singular entity we will always rely on language to externalize our world, because of that we should always think about the language we use to communicate and express ideas. Words shape the world we see and the world we experience.

The point is, there will always be something some people will find offensive. How long before "animal" or "robot" are found to have undesired connotations?

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

6510 wrote: post #271
Wingy wrote: post #248

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JS can though, so can Ruby.

It doesn't belong there in my view. We started out not knowing what anything should look like, we didn't even know what computers were suppose to do. Everything had to be envisioned and implemented. Different approaches were taken for a lot of things. Eventually we just know how something should work. At that point it can be abstracted away. Similarly lots of things should stay in JS. If we've experimented and evolve…

It seems like you're simultaneously saying "sorting doesn't belong as a language function in JavaScript" and "we shouldn't ship a sorting routine to the client," which seems...odd. If the page view needs sorting, then isn't that the use case where we can most say that there is, in fact, a point to "shipping sort magic to the client"?

(Also, you can do an HTML table sort in about 10 pretty short lines of code[1], so this seems like a kind of weird hill to die on.)

[1]: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14267781/sorting-html-ta...

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by ravenstine »

siculars wrote: post #403
ravenstine wrote: post #342

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> I don't want to run the risk of having my repos nuked from orbit for any inadvertent profanity If they did, it doesn't sound like it would affect you if you already keep your repos locally anyway. Your point is totally valid, but I don't think that means that GitHub is a bad storage medium. It does mean that it's smart to always keep local copies of your code, as is true for anything one might keep in the "cloud".

Keeping a copy in the cloud could be zipping the dir and sending to s3. Interacting with GitHub and all its community features is something else and having that get nuked for some reason is a different thing.

In which case wouldn't you want to run an instance of GitLab? That seems to be different from just keeping personal code somewhere without the need for community/organization features.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by _def »

kirse wrote: post #472
lqet wrote: post #288

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Tangential: what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling"? I feel like western society as a whole is thinking more and more in terms of a six year old. For adults, there lies incredible satisfaction in mastering any but the most exploitative professions or jobs and fulfilling them dutifully, even if they are be no means "fun".

what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling" A couple years ago I dubbed this trend "Flanders Computing" [1]. I haven't really given much thought about its origins, but it's probably got to do with the increasing demand for happiness that we Americans hold dear. Collectively I think it's entered the American psyche that the answer to happiness is to avoi…

Your comment reminds me of a great quote:

"The desire for more positive experience is in itself a negative experience. And, paradoxically, the acceptance of one's negative experience is itself a positive experience."

from "The Subtle Art Of Not Giving A Fuck" by Mark Mason

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

soraminazuki wrote: post #467
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Japanese culture is quite different from American culture. We did rebuild them, and McArthur is revered as a god, over there. But they really have their own culture, and some aspects can strike us as quite strange (as, I am sure, some aspects of our culture weird them out). I worked for a Japanese company, and went there, multiple times a year, for about twenty years (all Tokyo, so I can't speak for the rest of Japan…

> McArthur is revered as a god, over there While he's undeniably a famous historical figure in Japan, my impression is that the majority of Japanese people don't have any strong opinions about him. After all, how many people actually care so much about historical figures when they're busy watching cat videos on YouTube? But for the people who do have some interest, I assume many have mixed feelings on the matter, whi…

I'll have to hunt down the article that talks about it, but McArthur was actually "Emperor of Japan" for a few years, in everything but title.

I had several people point out his office on the top floor of a building facing the Emperor's Palace (some of the priciest real estate on Earth), in hushed, reverential tones.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by User23 »

asveikau wrote: post #445
whatshisface wrote: post #392

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Japan is twice as far from California going East as it is going West. The parent must be using that definition. ;)

I remember once it felt a bit jarring when I heard native American cultures contrasted with "western" ones. Surely they are more "western" than Europeans.

"Western" in this context is referring to the western tip of the Eurasian landmass. The western hemisphere is part of the cultural "West" because of the European diaspora, not because of its geographic location.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by TeaDrunk »

vorpalhex wrote: post #453
TeaDrunk wrote: post #429

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And I think it is unreasonable to assume that a single bad take on a subject made by an anonymous user years ago should be held as an example that there is an overwhelming movement of harming the OS community. It is simultaneously possible that plenty of individuals have uninformed, clumsy approaches to a topic and that it is not an overwhelming movement or agenda.

> an overwhelming movement of harming the OS community I think there's no global intent. There's no formalized group that has a weekly agenda of "Destroy Opensource!" > It is simultaneously possible that plenty of individuals have uninformed, clumsy approaches to a topic Right and this is what I mean by the crusade/rage mob analogies. Somebody gets upset about something, and they may be genuinely offended (and still…

I find crusade a very poor analogy because it implies there is an organized force (the crusades are a well-known religiously motivated militarization). I also struggle with this idea of rage mobs, because like I've brought up before, it's difficult to assume a mob exists right now because of a bad take someone made years ago. That seems, on its face, dissociated from how reality functions.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by closeparen »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #100

I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…

That’s not Github in particular though, that’s any git remote.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by asveikau »

User23 wrote: post #497
asveikau wrote: post #445

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I remember once it felt a bit jarring when I heard native American cultures contrasted with "western" ones. Surely they are more "western" than Europeans.

"Western" in this context is referring to the western tip of the Eurasian landmass. The western hemisphere is part of the cultural "West" because of the European diaspora, not because of its geographic location.

Yes I understand. Yet it in another sense remains geographically inaccurate or contradictory, and amusingly so.

It's my personal opinion that when we see such a discongreguity that we should perhaps choose other words.

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