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Exactly ;)
not everyone gets a choice in tools...
but many do.
GitHub isn't fun anymore
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Did you read the article? It was all about the camaraderie created by the Trending page, which has become useless. Git is a tool, yes. But GitHub is “social coding”, which should at least be a little fun.
> Did you read the article? Umm...yes. Yes, I did. Be nice. I understood what the author was saying. I never wrote that I disagreed with it; just that I viewed it through a different lens. It appears that I am not alone in using this lens. MS used be "new, shiny," but now, they are "blue chip." I don't equate their properties with "fun," but I do believe they are serious about "let's get some work done," which jives…
Haha, ok, fair enough.
FWIW, I see GitLab and Bitbucket as more focused on the tooling and business-first aspects.
And since creating my first repo there, I’ve always seen GitHub as a social platform for gaining notoriety within the open source community.
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I think it's a consequence of gamifying absolutely everything. If you had a online tool I used to quietly manage production at my cardboard box factory and then you went and added leader boards, badges, xp, recognition points and an influencer score, then box manufacturing better be pretty bloody exciting for me from now on. We now have an entire generation of software developers who have never known these tools with…
> If you had a online tool I used to quietly manage production at my cardboard box factory and then you went and added leader boards, badges, xp, recognition points and an influencer score, then box manufacturing better be pretty bloody exciting for me from now on. We now have an entire generation of software developers who have never known these tools without the gamified experience. Maybe I'm just a little too old,…
That's what makes those systems so great. It has a positive effect on the people that DO care, and essentially no negative effect on anyone else. It's a free win.
Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore
#444I really don't need another half-baked social platform built into something that already does one thing very well.
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Have you ever been to Japan?
Japan is twice as far from California going East as it is going West. The parent must be using that definition. ;)
I remember once it felt a bit jarring when I heard native American cultures contrasted with "western" ones. Surely they are more "western" than Europeans.
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Oh wow, that was hard to read and I only made it through the top 10 comments. Getting brigaded because some people are over sensitive must be a horrible feeling.
I've read that thread a few times and I see the people requesting the change doing so in a calm, reasonable manner. The only non-productive posts I see are from people who are vehemently and acerbically against it.
The tagline of the forked repo is "Fork of Rubocop without all of the 'cop' stuff. ACAB." (https://github.com/ruby-lint/ruby_lint)
From the README:
>The goal of this project is for the rubocop folks to merge this back into rubocop project, and rename its org/repo/domain/etc >The goal is NOT to maintain an ongoing parity fork of an active project
Insanely entitled in my book and far from what I'd call calm or reasonable.
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I think ultimately Sourceforge fell from grace because it wasn't "fun", whatever that may mean; it was lacking the social features, poor UX, etc. Many things that make it boring or "not fun". I've looked at some tools used by Google - mailing lists, Gerrit, etc - none of those look fun. For a casual like me, fun is important. I don't do much with open source because I don't have the headspace, willpower or persistenc…
I think Sourceforge fell from grace because of underhanded tactics like hijacking projects and bundling adware no-one wanted with their downloads, then lying about it. I never once thought "Sourceforge is boring". I thought they became villains.
To be fair though, they declined in popularity and mindshare and had a change of ownership a few times before it came to that. The sourceforge that served up malware in 2013 bore little resemblance to the one from the 90s.
I feel like it was more like: their offerings were no longer unique, the original team probably moved on, they couldn't make money, and they turned to desperation.
Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore
#448I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…
I kind of do have "fun" with GH. I follow people and see what repos they have starred, or code/issues they're working on. I also follow repos and check the source code that's being committed from time to time. Just for fun, to learn new stuff. The "Explore repositories" option did help me to find a couple of interesting repos. I feel that at some point GH decided to distance themselves from the social aspect of the p…
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> Did you read the article? Umm...yes. Yes, I did. Be nice. I understood what the author was saying. I never wrote that I disagreed with it; just that I viewed it through a different lens. It appears that I am not alone in using this lens. MS used be "new, shiny," but now, they are "blue chip." I don't equate their properties with "fun," but I do believe they are serious about "let's get some work done," which jives…
Haha, ok, fair enough. FWIW, I see GitLab and Bitbucket as more focused on the tooling and business-first aspects. And since creating my first repo there, I’ve always seen GitHub as a social platform for gaining notoriety within the open source community.
I feel that GH plays an important role in exactly that (I have been writing open-source software for more than twenty years, but I'm not particularly "notorious." It has never really been one of my goals).
That said, I have never thought about it as the fulcrum for social networking along those lines. I have considered developer communities, like this one, or specialized ones, as places to connect, and GH as a "gallery," where we can send people to view our portfolio, after we have connected, or to "vet" contacts, like employers.
My experience with GH, is that the folks that really generate the most energy, are the JavaScript/Python/Full-Stack communities. I am an Apple software specialist, and there's not really the same energy, in that community, on GH, so it shouldn't be a surprise that I don't see it the same way as JS folks.
Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore
#450I’ve never considered GitHub to be “fun.” It’s a great tool , though. Most of my GH interaction is through my desktop system, not a browser (pushing and pulling checkouts). I’ve been using some form of source control for nearly 30 years (since Projector, in the 1990s). It’s a tool. A very, very important tool. I appreciate many of the “glossy” features of GH, like hero images and GH Pages, but this shows how “out of…
Tangential: what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling"? I feel like western society as a whole is thinking more and more in terms of a six year old. For adults, there lies incredible satisfaction in mastering any but the most exploitative professions or jobs and fulfilling them dutifully, even if they are be no means "fun".
> Tangential: what is up with this inflationary expectation that everything should be "fun" and "exciting" and "thrilling"? I feel like western society as a whole is thinking more and more in terms of a six year old.
Depends what you mean by "western society". A good chunk of Europeans I knew (including in Eastern Europe where I live) share the same mindset as your parent poster: a version control is just a tool and it is gauged on the basis of how much it helps you in your work. Absolutely zero fun factor required. We just want it to be useful and not get in the way (which, admittedly, Git itself isn't quite good at).