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GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by coldtea »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #420
bluntfang wrote: post #364

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Do you not consider Japanese to be Western? I mean, America literally rebuilt the moral, ethical, and political environment after dropping the bomb.

Japanese culture is quite different from American culture. We did rebuild them, and McArthur is revered as a god, over there. But they really have their own culture, and some aspects can strike us as quite strange (as, I am sure, some aspects of our culture weird them out). I worked for a Japanese company, and went there, multiple times a year, for about twenty years (all Tokyo, so I can't speak for the rest of Japan…

>McArthur is revered as a god, over there

When they talk to Americans, maybe.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by coldtea »

asveikau wrote: post #445
whatshisface wrote: post #392

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Japan is twice as far from California going East as it is going West. The parent must be using that definition. ;)

I remember once it felt a bit jarring when I heard native American cultures contrasted with "western" ones. Surely they are more "western" than Europeans.

West/East and western/eastern does not just have a geographical meaning.

It also has a political/cultural meaning, which has some roots in geography, but is otherwise totally different.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by coldtea »

asveikau wrote: post #500
User23 wrote: post #497

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"Western" in this context is referring to the western tip of the Eurasian landmass. The western hemisphere is part of the cultural "West" because of the European diaspora, not because of its geographic location.

Yes I understand. Yet it in another sense remains geographically inaccurate or contradictory, and amusingly so. It's my personal opinion that when we see such a discongreguity that we should perhaps choose other words.

>It's my personal opinion that when we see such a discongreguity that we should perhaps choose other words.

Not really. Then we'd be changing terms established for centuries, that most people understand in their two contexts (geographical and cultural), with some new words we'd have to explain every time we use them -- so making things worse.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by coldtea »

devmunchies wrote: post #491
asveikau wrote: post #445

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I remember once it felt a bit jarring when I heard native American cultures contrasted with "western" ones. Surely they are more "western" than Europeans.

Native Americans and pre-Christian pagan Europeans had a lot in common. Both cultures that honor seasonal cycles, animals, nature, ancestors, animism etc. Unfortunately “western” is now seen as the Abrahamic judeo-Christian capitalistic worldview, even though the west sprang out of pagan Greece and Rome.

>Unfortunately “western” is now seen as the Abrahamic judeo-Christian capitalistic worldview, even though the west sprang out of pagan Greece and Rome.

The west "sprang out of pagan Greece and Rome" when they decided to become Christian. The actual pagans had been slowly abandoning paganism as a dead-end and turning more into esoteric religions and neo-planonism etc and the influence of Egyptian etc religions for several centuries before Christianism was a thing...

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by antonvs »

asveikau wrote: post #500
User23 wrote: post #497

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"Western" in this context is referring to the western tip of the Eurasian landmass. The western hemisphere is part of the cultural "West" because of the European diaspora, not because of its geographic location.

Yes I understand. Yet it in another sense remains geographically inaccurate or contradictory, and amusingly so. It's my personal opinion that when we see such a discongreguity that we should perhaps choose other words.

Words are never some sort of perfect encapsulation of their meaning. They only achieve that via their definitions.

What you're suggesting is basically using the etymological fallacy as a basis for changing words. Because of linguistic drift, a majority of words would have up be changed at some point - words like "nice" which came to mean their opposite, for example.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by diegoperini »

kps wrote: post #509
diegoperini wrote: post #486

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Can you explain why? It sure has its pluses and minuses but which aspect makes it broken?

I've had to deal with reconciling a divergent tree; I've seen code that does not appear in `git show x ` for any x in `show show --full-history`, and discovered that `git show XXXX` is different from `git diff XXXX^..XXXX`. I'm sure a fanboy will be along to tell me that a commit is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors and I just need to run `git-vent-branch --relieve-mimic-subtree --stub-indict-file`, but I…

I wish I knew what any of those commands mean (except diff).

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by closeparen »

ardy42 wrote: post #437
nogabebop23 wrote: post #430

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I think it's a consequence of gamifying absolutely everything. If you had a online tool I used to quietly manage production at my cardboard box factory and then you went and added leader boards, badges, xp, recognition points and an influencer score, then box manufacturing better be pretty bloody exciting for me from now on. We now have an entire generation of software developers who have never known these tools with…

> If you had a online tool I used to quietly manage production at my cardboard box factory and then you went and added leader boards, badges, xp, recognition points and an influencer score, then box manufacturing better be pretty bloody exciting for me from now on. We now have an entire generation of software developers who have never known these tools without the gamified experience. Maybe I'm just a little too old,…

GitHub stars are called out by name in my company’s promotion criteria for evaluating the impact and influence of an engineer’s open source releases.

There’s a certain kind of manager that loves anything they can measure, however silly it is.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by arghwhat »

Carpetsmoker wrote: post #465
arghwhat wrote: post #324

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No, because mercurial really isn't suitable for this . Nor is Git for that matter. Similar thing happened on Github with CocoaPods: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11245652 .

It works, so it's suitable.

If I duct tape you to a car seat it will work just like a seat belt.

Just because something works doesn't mean it is a suitable implementation or a sensible decision.

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by kps »

diegoperini wrote: post #566
kps wrote: post #509

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I've had to deal with reconciling a divergent tree; I've seen code that does not appear in `git show x ` for any x in `show show --full-history`, and discovered that `git show XXXX` is different from `git diff XXXX^..XXXX`. I'm sure a fanboy will be along to tell me that a commit is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors and I just need to run `git-vent-branch --relieve-mimic-subtree --stub-indict-file`, but I…

I wish I knew what any of those commands mean (except diff).

Me too.

I made a typo (`git show` not `show show`) and the last one is from https://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/

Re: GitHub isn't fun anymore

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Post by prepend »

_fat_santa wrote: post #436
frankcaron wrote: post #374

Imo, Github has only been moving further in the right direction lately — and more social features ain't it, chief. The better value proposition lift from giving folks and teams more free private repos was huge, and the increasingly-prominent integration of Github into enterprise tools is facilitating (if not helping to force) the modernization of enterprise dev outside the software industry. I've never been a bigger…

Second this. With GH now letting you create Organizations with private repositories, it's starting to transform how I store core on GH. All of my "big" projects on GH have more than one repo, usually 2-5 depending on what all work needs to be done. Before GH allowed you to create private repos in orgs for free I had hundreds of repositories and had to name them like projectname-website. Now I create orgs for my bigge…

I can’t wait for GitHub to support hierarchical orgs (like GitLab). I’ve started using GitHub for enterprise and it’s hard to have separate orgs or giant orgs as the two options.

Being able to nest orgs will be great so it’s still easy to organize an entire org as well as the ability to drill down.

Even better would be a tag-like structure where orgs can have relationships other than hierarchies. Topics doesn’t really do this now, but maybe could if they improve the topic search.

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