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Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by choeger »

chiefsucker wrote: post #222
nerdponx wrote: post #152

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That's bullshit, it's not an attempt to help anybody but Google. What better way to keep people on AMP pages, than to make them so ignorant as to not even know how to tell the difference?

What the heck? A regular user doesn’t understand or care what the technical difference between a “regular” page and AMP is. I wouldn’t call this ignorance per se.

Not knowing and not caring is the very definition of ignorance.

Sometimes I wonder if feudalism must have felt like this from the perspective of the noble people. Will there be a dark age followed by enlightenment? Because right now we seem to encounter self-imposed nonage.

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Post by pjc50 »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #290
foldr wrote: post #261

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This has nothing to do with so-called SJWs. Please think twice before using politically toxic language in a thread that isn't even about politics. I guess it pleases you to tell a story about how this trivial UI design decision is actually the result of the machinations of your political enemies. But there is absolutely zero evidence for that. Do you really find it so hard to imagine that the decision was made with g…

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Four comments from "hiding a URL is bad" to "Nazis". Well done everyone. You've made me take the time to flag every single comment that uses SJW as a pejorative, and the thread as a whole for off-topic flamebait.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Post by noisem4ker »

jchw wrote: post #59

OK, I just don’t get it anymore. I mean I’m a happy Firefox user, so it’s not like this personally impacts me, but how in the heck is seemingly nobody acknowledging that this has been the behavior in Safari for a long time now? This seems to be a recurring pattern.

I've got a couple of guesses. Apple is somehow regarded as being a pro-user company, not having plans of taking over the web. Also, Apple users are accustomed to UI changes that result in visual simplicity. Nevermind that their actions result in patronizing the user just the same as Google does, in their case those actions are more likely to be perceived as innocuous.

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Post by yreg »

jchw wrote: post #59

OK, I just don’t get it anymore. I mean I’m a happy Firefox user, so it’s not like this personally impacts me, but how in the heck is seemingly nobody acknowledging that this has been the behavior in Safari for a long time now? This seems to be a recurring pattern.

Cmd+f Safari, I'm equally surprised no one but you mentions it.

However: I believe Apple's motives are aligned with their users and they want their browser to be as safe and as easy to understand/use as possible. Their primary intention is to sell their shiny expensive hardware.

With Google it's more controversial, because who knows what's the plan. Combined with AMP there is a reason to be wary.

Ofc, one can make bad decisions based on good motives.

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Post by tehjoker »

cletus wrote: post #94

Another phrase I live by: "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions." There will be some VP of Product or Engineering buried deep in the bureaucracy who is pushing this, deciding with no evidence (or, worse, lots of evidence to the contrary; believe me this happens) that it is the "users who are wrong" [1]. It now takes something like 4 taps to get to the point where I can correct or otherwise edit the URL in m…

Incredible, with three letters, you managed to derail an entire discussion about an incredibly important topic concerning Google's engineering decisions that will affect billions. If you were paid by a PR firm you couldn't have done it better.

To be honest, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if this entire subthread was mostly PR firm manufactured and designed to drown discussion and outrage about a topic Google knows is going to be bad for it.

A telltale sign of a manipulation campaign is when someone says something outrageous in a way that doesn't make sense and it gets pushed to the front of the discussion. Especially when that discussion will likely be bad for a major corporation. It's not a 100% accurate detector, but it works a lot better than being a rube.

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Post by krzyk »

tchaffee wrote: post #289
psexec wrote: post #157

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How about this idiocy? https://9to5google.com/2020/06/12/google-android-chrome-blac...

Changing from blacklist and whitelist to blocklist and allowlist is one of the many small things we can do that makes our black colleagues feel seen, heard, and welcome in our workplaces. I support it. No one thinks changing language is enough to eliminate the systemic racism oppressing black people in the US. Eliminating that will require work and personal change. If you can't even stop using black to mean negative…

Why would anyone be offended by blacklist? Would they be also offended by the color black? Or maybe dark mode, that is getting popular?

Or maybe offended by the fact that most pages on the web have light/white theme?

This is getting ridiculous (together with github ditching the name "master" - https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1271253144442253312), maybe it is the result of too much working from home recently - people create problems where there are none.

What is even more funny is the fact that those changes are proposed by white guys without any complains from the black folks.

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Post by krzyk »

willis936 wrote: post #180
pojntfx wrote: post #138

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> I'm tired of this anti-Web and anti-accessibility SJW nonsense to the point that yeah Wtf is wrong with you people it's no longer 2016

Can’t be censoring terrorists. That’s SJW nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

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Post by Spivak »

magicalist wrote: post #294
sk0g wrote: post #277

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If anything, there's, from my experience, a good overlap between the SJW types, and the people who push for accessibility/ a11y as the cool kids call it, as it sorta falls under the inclusion initiatives. EDIT: I was clearly disagreeing with the parent badmouthing SJWs wrt accessibility...

> there's, from my experience, a good overlap between the SJW types, and the people who push for accessibility/ a11y as the coop kids call it "Pushing for accessibility" is a pejorative now? What in the world is going on in this thread?

No, you’re just assuming it is because it’s next to the word SWJ.

The parent's point is that someone who would self-identify or otherwise be described as SWJ would more likely push for greater accessibility to a fault rather than reduce it for aesthetic reasons. The attack on “SJWs” in the grandparent is misguided because it misunderstands their motivations so completely that it’s clear that the term is just meant as “people I vaguely don’t like and I feel have it out for me somehow.”

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Post by NateEag »

toyg wrote: post #177
curiousgal wrote: post #76

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You can easily transfer those to Firefox. That being said, I admit that staright out of the box Firefox doesn't have the same experience but you can customize every little thing about it to make it suit your needs.

That’s too close for comfort to the Windows/Linux comparison. This said, I honestly don’t understand what people mean when they say the experience is “superior” in Chrome. It’s a web browser. It browses. You get passwords saved and synchronised. Everything else is an extension. What’s so bad about FF...?

The last time I tried to use Firefox for a daily desktop driver, I found its dev tools far less discoverable and powerful. It may be that they're as good or better and just harder to learn. Related, if you're debugging hybrid mobile apps, Chrome is pretty much the only game in town on Android, IIRC.

It also felt noticeably slower at the time.

Finally, with Chrome's market share, good extensions that Just Work are more common there, in my experience. I use a whole host of plugins on desktop, and when I looked at switching back to FF last year, I did not find equivalents for everything.

I did go back to FF on mobile, because I do remember the nightmare of IE 6 and want to protect the web from total Google control. On mobile, I miss the dev tools and array of extensions less.

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Post by wolco »

chiefsucker wrote: post #239
vonquant wrote: post #78

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www.example.com and example.com don't necessarily resolve to the same place.

A common convention with system administrators is to have the canonical name at www.* and redirect www-less requests to the former. If you argue that a browser implementation should fix uncommon configurations, I would argue that administrators should fix their configurations in the first place. You don’t have this issue at all for domains that don’t have a www subdomain. Furthermore it would be extremely confusing t…

Redirecting a subdomain to root should be a choice not forced.
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