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Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

#171
This is likely about replacing URIs with "web identity", i.e. certificate-signed content. The browser address bar would display the publisher name instead of site name.

2018 discussion with Google's Chrome demo at AMP event: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17923156

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

#172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I kind of prefer it hidden But why?

because it's never significant or useful

The company I worked for had www.* as a web presentation for the SaaS app and SaaS app running on *.

So yeah, hiding www is annoying and confusing in this situation, because Google just assumed something about the web/domains and forced their assumptions on everyone.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

#173

I'd personally prefer if ot wasn't hidden but after first hamd experiencing non tech savvy family members trying to decipher the query part and some accusing someone of trying to hack them I'm for the change. The whole query string philosophy is such an outdated hack. Today it's just thousands of tracking qieries. What I hate is how poorly they worded when websites use http instead of https. It says "connection not s…

> trying to decipher the query part and some accusing someone of trying to hack them I'm for the change

At least back in the day they will have the opportunity to learn what a query string is and that no, nobody is hacking anyone.

However with these stupid changes there will no longer be an opportunity to learn even if you wanted to.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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It's weird that people like a particular browswer for a number of its feature, but are upset about a change that makes it worse?

Yes, it is kind of weird to like a browser where the company behind it are actively working against the web when there are decent alternatives (arguably better alternatives) that does not contribute to a monopoly that we can not break. Do you think IE6 was bad? Remember how long it took to get rid of it? Imagine a world where the monopoly leader doesn't just walk away from the browser (which is what MS did with IE6)…

> Remember how long it took to get rid of it?

I suspect a lot of people in this conversation are not old enough to remember, even if they wanted to.

Maybe universities should have an obligation to promote nonprofit tools (i.e. Firefox) rather than shady commercial software that only happens to be gratis.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Another phrase I live by: "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions." There will be some VP of Product or Engineering buried deep in the bureaucracy who is pushing this, deciding with no evidence (or, worse, lots of evidence to the contrary; believe me this happens) that it is the "users who are wrong" [1]. It now takes something like 4 taps to get to the point where I can correct or otherwise edit the URL in m…

Insightful, but I am confused by the final paragraph: > I'm tired of this anti-Web and anti-accessibility SJW nonsense “SJW” must have a meaning I’m not familiar with, because Social Justice Warriors would be pro-accessibility, not anti.

> “SJW” must have a meaning I’m not familiar with, because Social Justice Warriors would be pro-accessibility, not anti.

They would be, except blind, simple-minded activism tends to have unintended consequences that make it a net negative for the cause.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

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Another phrase I live by: "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions." There will be some VP of Product or Engineering buried deep in the bureaucracy who is pushing this, deciding with no evidence (or, worse, lots of evidence to the contrary; believe me this happens) that it is the "users who are wrong" [1]. It now takes something like 4 taps to get to the point where I can correct or otherwise edit the URL in m…

> I'm tired of this anti-Web and anti-accessibility SJW nonsense to the point that yeah, I'm ready to ditch Chrome. It's funny what the final piece of straw is that breaks peoples' metaphorical camels' backs. Still, better it breaks and people make the move to greener pastures — hopefully Firefox rather than Chrome-with-even-more-questionable-ethics … I don't remember the name, something like Courageous or Fearless o…

It is the little things that piss you off. Tracking and spyware is too abstract. Hiding the street and house number in the adress bar is not.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

#177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Passwords and bookmarks are in Chrome. That's the main point of friction. But I do re-evaluate Firefox from time to time. So far there has often been small things which made me reluctant. I think this feature is important enough for me to consider switching this time.

You can easily transfer those to Firefox. That being said, I admit that staright out of the box Firefox doesn't have the same experience but you can customize every little thing about it to make it suit your needs.

That’s too close for comfort to the Windows/Linux comparison.

This said, I honestly don’t understand what people mean when they say the experience is “superior” in Chrome. It’s a web browser. It browses. You get passwords saved and synchronised. Everything else is an extension. What’s so bad about FF...?

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

#178
This is a setting, in flags (i.e. not in regular settings, the whole section in the ui is marked 'experiments') in the dev/canary builds of the browser. It defaults to off. The article (and even its slightly HN-improved title) is pure ragebait.

Re: Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chrome 85 address bar

#180
post #94

Another phrase I live by: "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions." There will be some VP of Product or Engineering buried deep in the bureaucracy who is pushing this, deciding with no evidence (or, worse, lots of evidence to the contrary; believe me this happens) that it is the "users who are wrong" [1]. It now takes something like 4 taps to get to the point where I can correct or otherwise edit the URL in m…

> I'm tired of this anti-Web and anti-accessibility SJW nonsense to the point that yeah Wtf is wrong with you people it's no longer 2016

Can’t be censoring terrorists. That’s SJW nonsense.
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