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Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by baddox »

kjksf wrote: post #127
baddox wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you had any suggestion for the website of an open source project, wouldn't you discuss that publicly? I don't think you would privately contact the single person who is in control of the project's website, at least not initially.

Suggesting changes to the website was not a problem. Trying to mobilize Twitter mob against a person that declined your suggestion was a problem.

I don't see any attempt to mobilize a Twitter mob against a person, unless you just consider all disagreements on Twitter to inherently imply a desire for a Twitter mob to come to your side.

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Post by rodneyg_ »

sky_rw wrote: post #109
dvt wrote: post #45

I'm so over this political posturing. I can't wait for ~2 weeks when everyone's going to go back to their lives like nothing happened (remember #OccupyWallStreet?). People that actually change the world don't need to advertise it on Twitter. I have friends that volunteer in Watts and Compton every other weekend (and have done so for years ) that don't need to share it on social media. I can't help but think that this…

My friend, you may not be aware that there is an election in a few months. This chaos will continue to escalate all summer and into the fall. Then once Trump wins re-election your really gonna see some slacktavism.

This. Surprised anyone thinks things will die down soon.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by _bxg1 »

dvt wrote: post #45

I'm so over this political posturing. I can't wait for ~2 weeks when everyone's going to go back to their lives like nothing happened (remember #OccupyWallStreet?). People that actually change the world don't need to advertise it on Twitter. I have friends that volunteer in Watts and Compton every other weekend (and have done so for years ) that don't need to share it on social media. I can't help but think that this…

The thing is these really are issues that need to be talked about and addressed, and they really have fallen on deaf ears in the past because of lack of popular force. The people in charge just keep posturing, brushing it off, saying "yeah yeah we'll get to it", and waiting for the news cycle to move on. Nothing ever changes.

But the problem is that society at large, especially on the internet, apparently just sucks across the board at anything resembling actual discussion. It seems impossible to both a) give an issue national attention and b) have a remotely civil or productive public conversation about it.

I don't know what to do about it except to say we all deserve each other.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by scarmig »

bsamuels wrote: post #116
underwater wrote: post #37

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The original tweet is more telling. https://mobile.twitter.com/aweary/status/1267895488205869057

The first few replies are even more telling. When someone tells him that calling out a coworker is in bad taste, you get this gem >oh no Arthur thinks I'm rude, how will I recover https://twitter.com/aweary/status/1267927023596400642?s=20

I love that in, another Tweet, someone is giving Arthur shit for... not having his pronouns in his bio.

ETA: apparently the user giving Arthur shit is just trolling

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by purple_ferret »

Grimm1 wrote: post #50
mgleitub wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed -- here is some additional context that the article doesn't provide: The fired employee Tweeted today: >In the interest of transparency, I was let go for calling out an employee’s inaction here on Twitter. I stand by what I said. They didn’t give me the chance to quit [0] He then specifically cited [1] the Tweet in question that was the cause: >I asked @Vjeux to follow @reactjs's lead and add a statement of su…

Politics should be kept out of the workplace.

Normally sure, but when politicians are using your platform (paying you) to further their own narratives, it's fair game.

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Post by waterhouse »

saagarjha wrote: post #117
baddox wrote: post #107

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That's certainly not the case. The electoral college was designed such that each state's legislature chooses how to attribute their electoral college votes. Many states in the first few presidential elections just had their state legislatures assign the votes. But still, I find it difficult to believe that the people who designed the electoral college would think it's okay that we held a national election, we got to…

As I understand it, many of the founding fathers explicitly feared that general populace would vote poorly and wanted people who were educated and had access to sufficient information to make a decision to do so on their behalf.

I was also told the following rationale: If elections are decided entirely by popular vote, then candidates are incentivized to campaign in population centers, and have no incentive to ever visit sparsely populated states. (Like, bringing your margin from 70% to 85% of 4 million people is worth more than going from 0% to 100% of 400k people.)

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by _bxg1 »

musicale wrote: post #142

> Facebook fires employee who protested its inaction on Trump tweets Why should facebook act on Trump tweets ?

Twitter de-emphasized one because it violated their policy by advocating violence, and added a fact check to another that was blatantly and verifiably false. Neither was removed completely. Zuckerberg specifically said Facebook would do nothing of the sort.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by devmunchies »

baddox wrote: post #138
devmunchies wrote: post #129

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It’s absolutely relevant. Whether it’s a public open source project or a fight over sports in a pub, there is a line you cannot cross if the other person is a co-worker. Context is everything.

Of course there is a line you can't cross. But asking someone to do something, then saying they didn't do, does not seem to be past that line to me. That seems like something that would happen very routinely.

You’re purposefully using language to make it seem like not a big deal. It was clearly more aggressive than simply asking.

And, again, context for where you are “saying they didn’t do it” matters. If it’s an internal company board vs Twitter or github matters.

Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague

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Post by ab_c »

baddox wrote: post #61
mgleitub wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed -- here is some additional context that the article doesn't provide: The fired employee Tweeted today: >In the interest of transparency, I was let go for calling out an employee’s inaction here on Twitter. I stand by what I said. They didn’t give me the chance to quit [0] He then specifically cited [1] the Tweet in question that was the cause: >I asked @Vjeux to follow @reactjs's lead and add a statement of su…

What do you mean by "specifically targeting an individual front-end engineer at FB?" This seems to be "targeting" the person in control of the website of that open source project, and why wouldn't this communication be targeted at that person? Targeting it at anyone else, or just tweeting into the wind, would be completely ridiculous. It also doesn't strike me as "harassment" or an "attack" or even particularly hosti…

Ooof. I'd hate to be around that guy if he was organizing a fundraiser. If he's passionate about a cause and notices that you didn't donate as much as he had hoped, does it give him the right to publicly shame you for it? It doesn't matter if it's for a good cause or not, that's 100% harassment.

His tweet wasn't meant to encourage ppl to join his cause, his tweet was targeted at one person and meant to solicit others to attack. I wouldn't be surprised if FB already had complaints about that Dail guy being abrasive and difficult to work with.

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