Maybe the title should be "...employee who was a jerk" [but also protested Facebook's inaction on Trump tweets]
Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
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Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm starting a new job soon and I'm trying to figure out how I'll handle these "silence is complicit" characters. My personal policy is to not discuss political/social issues at work.
Not a lawyer, just my thoughts: Assuming you're in the US, it's my understanding that political affiliation is generally not a protected category. So if it's at-will employment at a private employer, it's probably legal to fire you for your political beliefs / actions (or "no reason" when it's really about political affiliation). If someone is engaging in behavior that bothers you, tell them to stop. If they don't, r…
There are state dependent laws. California for example: https://www.shouselaw.com/employment/political-retaliation.h...
Some high level laws by state: https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/political-aff...
Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where is the public shaming? Is there a difference between stating that you disagree with someone's actions and "public shaming?"
Publicly disclosing a private conversation? No, not really.
That's still not public shaming, is it? It's not even a private conversation about private matters.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a quote said in 1967 by Miami police Chief Walter Headley who was talking about how he will respond to protests against the police. For context, he also said he was against "young hoodlums, from 15 to 21, who have taken advantage of the civil rights campaign. ... We don't mind being accused of police brutality" The Chief got the phrase from the guy who used firehoses and dogs against children during the Birmingh…
If you read "young hoodlums" and think of certain race maybe it's your own bias shining through. Where I grew up on Ohio the kids I considered "young hoodlums" didn't happen to be any specific race
Except Headley had used "hoodlums from the Negro districts" in the past, and it's pretty clear that it's being used similarly here.
Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#125He shouldn’t have been fired I think, but he also shouldn’t be a tattle-tale against his co-workers. We need solidarity with our co-workers + an end to at-will employment. Relatedly (but not specific to this situation), if we had stronger employment guarantees people probably wouldn’t taddle to try to get people fired as much. Win-win-win all around.
Solidarity is important but how can you get there if coworkers harass each other publicly?
Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does not liking affirmative action make you racist? Isn't affirmative action or equivalent considered illegal in the UK(and perhaps EU in general but I'm not sure) Is the UK more racist than the US?
I'm not claiming that he's a racist but it takes a special kind of person to write a book against multiculturalism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG9iG0cSjbc
An observant one?
Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it’s a private discussion between two people of opposing views. Same reason you can still text your friends even if you work in public office.
If you had any suggestion for the website of an open source project, wouldn't you discuss that publicly? I don't think you would privately contact the single person who is in control of the project's website, at least not initially.
Suggesting changes to the website was not a problem.
Trying to mobilize Twitter mob against a person that declined your suggestion was a problem.
Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#128Facebook: hardcore about unlimited freedom of speech, unless you want to unionize. Then you can fuck right the fuck off. https://theintercept.com/2020/06/11/facebook-workplace-union...
WTF, Facebook is not a platform for "unlimited freedom of speech". It has very strong moderation, and if you pay an inkling of attention to conservative or LGBT groups, too much. It's because neither of these groups are considered "advertiser friendly".
Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wanting to be silent at work and thinking that silence is being complicit are both compatible beliefs. Work isn't your entire life, you can be loud outside of work and yet still be silent at work. Think of the phrase, "Don't shit where you eat".
In this case, it's a public open source project that was being discussed. That both people are also Facebook developers (and from what I can tell both worked on the project as part of their job), doesn't seem particularly relevant.
It’s absolutely relevant. Whether it’s a public open source project or a fight over sports in a pub, there is a line you cannot cross if the other person is a co-worker. Context is everything.
Re: Facebook fires employee for publicly scolding a colleague
#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
The original tweet is more telling. https://mobile.twitter.com/aweary/status/1267895488205869057
The first few replies are even more telling. When someone tells him that calling out a coworker is in bad taste, you get this gem >oh no Arthur thinks I'm rude, how will I recover https://twitter.com/aweary/status/1267927023596400642?s=20
What a petulant response lmao