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Once you understand the basics a high quality factory service manual is tough to beat. There’s plenty of low quality FSMs though, and most aftermarket repair manuals are awful. Videos can be helpful for learning fundamentals, but when I’m stuck on a specific problem not covered by the FSM, finding a hint or workaround happens fastest by searching forums rather than scrubbing through YouTube videos.

Not sure how to describe it but I cannot envision things at all while reading technical instructions. I own a few Haynes manuals and they do nothing for me no matter how many times I read them. I have a very visual memory. I managed to add a lift, change my CV shafts, lower control arms and a couple of other linkages by watching youtube. After doing it once, I can replay it from memory but that's not something a book…

You really need a service manual from the engineering team who built the vehicle. Haynes and Chilton are remnants from an earlier time, before normal people could obtain real factory service manuals. You’re definitely better off with YouTube than an aftermarket manual, but that’s not a high bar.

To be fair, learning many mechanical tasks for the first time is really a combination of fundamentals and application specific details (this can apply to most fields outside your expertise). As you mentioned, you can repeat the same task again mostly from memory. You could then extrapolate that knowledge to a different vehicle by referencing the application specific details in a quality service manual.

Videos are helpful because you lack the fundamentals, and they can be great for that.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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I'm wrong about all sorts of things, but I have a funny feeling that we're going to look back someday and see this as the first of many companies of a significant size launching something that looks just like a TV station. I can't emphasize how incredibly brilliant this is: it appears to be a perfectly curated combination of pure marketing webinar, tutorials, educational lectures and who knows what else. This is an e…

IMO this might serve two purposes -- marketing and to showcase the fact that they can run your TV station. This might be advertisement/marketing on two levels; both consumers and large corporations that might want to host a TV station.

Respectfully, you're thinking too small. Of course CloudFlare can host your TV station. They carry a significant, double-digit percentage of total internet traffic.

The impressive feat here is having the brand position and cultural currency and strategic foresight to launch and run a 24/7 TV station. That is high on the list of non-trivial, capital intensive things to do.

No, what this does is introduce CloudFlare as a media distribution channel, in the same way that Masterclass, Netflix, Twitter and Fortnite are media distribution channels.

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#134
How difficult is it exactly to do what chaturbate does for example?

I have been looking into how I could setup a similar broadcast on demand service for some yoga studios that I help out with (zoom is terrible for online yoga classes... it distorts music... no paywall possible... video/audio quality is all around terrible compared to chaturbate... etc).

Is it really that hard to chunk video as it comes in, and re-distribute it via websocket or something to web browsers?

How does chaturbate do it? Does anybody know?

Re: Cloudflare TV

#135

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IMO this might serve two purposes -- marketing and to showcase the fact that they can run your TV station. This might be advertisement/marketing on two levels; both consumers and large corporations that might want to host a TV station.

Respectfully, you're thinking too small. Of course CloudFlare can host your TV station. They carry a significant, double-digit percentage of total internet traffic. The impressive feat here is having the brand position and cultural currency and strategic foresight to launch and run a 24/7 TV station. That is high on the list of non-trivial, capital intensive things to do. No, what this does is introduce CloudFlare as…

> Respectfully, you're thinking too small. Of course CloudFlare can host your TV station. They carry a significant, double-digit percentage of total internet traffic.

This is almost certainly true. I can expand here that I didn't think of CloudFlare as a "TV" company or backbone infrastructure (in the normal media space) company in that way. I think this is the realization that they're trying to get out there.

> The impressive feat here is having the brand position and cultural currency and strategic foresight to launch and run a 24/7 TV station. That is high on the list of non-trivial, capital intensive things to do.

IMO they don't have the cultural currency, but to be fair, I live half a world away from what is arguably the nexus of the culture in this case (SF), so maybe I just can't see it. CloudFlare is a boring company (which is good), I don't know them for making lots of waves in this particular way. IMO what they're betting on is that doing something this big builds that cultural currency, and then it didn't matter how much you had in the first place.

If I were to dumb down your statement -- this is indeed a wonderful flex.

> No, what this does is introduce CloudFlare as a media distribution channel, in the same way that Masterclass, Netflix, Twitter and Fortnite are media distribution channels.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your statement, but this sounds like what I tried to convey -- CloudFlare is introducing itself as a media distribution channel (for media corporations) and a thought/market leader for the consumer (developers, technical management).

Also, check the other responses to my comment... there's someone lurking in there who is very very close to this whole thing. Interactions like that are why I still come to HN.

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I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

I recently started learning React for a side project I'm working on (in my day job I have more of a machine learning/backend role). There are a ton of coding videos for react. I never understood why people are watching these kind of coding videos, if you can get the same information much more efficiently in text form.

However, I ended up finding a use for them. I've been watching them at the end of the day when I was too tired to do any more coding work. Instead of wasting my time on YouTube, I ended up learning a lot.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#137

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Not sure how to describe it but I cannot envision things at all while reading technical instructions. I own a few Haynes manuals and they do nothing for me no matter how many times I read them. I have a very visual memory. I managed to add a lift, change my CV shafts, lower control arms and a couple of other linkages by watching youtube. After doing it once, I can replay it from memory but that's not something a book…

You really need a service manual from the engineering team who built the vehicle. Haynes and Chilton are remnants from an earlier time, before normal people could obtain real factory service manuals. You’re definitely better off with YouTube than an aftermarket manual, but that’s not a high bar. To be fair, learning many mechanical tasks for the first time is really a combination of fundamentals and application speci…

Yeah, that's actually what I said in an earlier comment. I said a lot of people who instruct forgot that certain techniques they do are actually part of the process but it's so automatic to them they gloss over it.

Agreed with you that I rely on videos less and less as I go. But I just kind of tinker with stuff until I figure it out.

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I'm actually surprised they don't introduce unskippable ads into articles to let content producers monetize their articles. Rather than the static ads and paywalls you can have the intro paragraph visible and then a "watch to unlock article" ad. Just like youtube with their 10min requirement, Medium can make requirements like the article needs to be more than 1000 words for 2 ads or something like that. Granted, this…

Are youtube ads really unskippable with youtube-dl, VLC, and other similar tools? Much like DVD ads used to be unskippable, but only for the non-tech-savvy.

> Are youtube ads really unskippable

No. I never see ads on Youtube on my own devices, and that barely requires any effort.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#140
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What are those concerns?

Not OP, but I’d bet they meant that deaf or hard-of-hearing people should be able to enjoy the programs

That and high traffic cost in developing countries also falls into accessibility category.
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