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Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by hanniabu »

fomojola wrote: post #98
Pxtl wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Youtube's monetization does it... they want to earn cash from their guides. Is there any money in "Youtube for Articles?"

Medium? I'd think there's money there, just not sure for whom.

I'm actually surprised they don't introduce unskippable ads into articles to let content producers monetize their articles. Rather than the static ads and paywalls you can have the intro paragraph visible and then a "watch to unlock article" ad. Just like youtube with their 10min requirement, Medium can make requirements like the article needs to be more than 1000 words for 2 ads or something like that. Granted, this would lead to a lot of useless fluff just like SEO has produced and pushing the meat of the content to the very end to get people through the ads. However this happens with video yet it's still popular.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by dkdk8283 »

trog wrote: post #56

I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

Text is important because it’s searchable - the fascination with zoom and video/audio communication makes documenting and finding knowledge so much harder. This is a problem for me at work, too.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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Post by mrpippy »

Pxtl wrote: post #96
ShamelessC wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed certain communities that live on the edge of tech-savvy do this a lot. In particular emulator and jailbreak communities for video game consoles refuse to keep up-to-date text guides on things. Everything is done on YouTube which is such a terrible format when you need to follow 30-step lists and pause to click on many links throughout the process to download software, firmware and exploits.

I think Youtube's monetization does it... they want to earn cash from their guides. Is there any money in "Youtube for Articles?"

There’s Patreon, but it really only works for people consistently writing articles (like The Digital Antiquarian/filfre.net which appears often on HN)

OTOH, YouTube now has a fairly high bar for monetization (1000 subs, 4000 public watch hours over last year)

Re: Cloudflare TV

#105

Post by jacurtis »

js2 wrote: post #33
eastdakota wrote: post #2

Details and rationale: https://blog.cloudflare.com/ladies-and-gentlemen-cloudflare-...

This should be the submitted link. I was taken to a Live Broadcast and had no idea what it was and had to come back to the comments here to understand.

Same here. I dove into comments to figure out what I was looking at. I sort of figured it out by poking around but was looking for explanative context.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#106

Post by galaxyLogic »

inopinatus wrote: post #68
trog wrote: post #56

I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

That’s an “it depends” for me. I do always want the transcript, but let’s appreciate that a competent lecturer brings a topic to life. You don’t have to be Richard Feynman, but you do have to reveal and conceptualise at a pace an informed and inquisitive brain latches onto. Most video content is not at this level; it’s often either glibly oversimplified (content marketing), bogged down in minutiae (how-to guides), or…

A good lecture is a good lecture but that is subjective because it depends on the level of knowledge each listener has. Whereas if I am reading I can easily skip the parts that seem too elementary to me, and read many times the paragraphs that seem difficult.

A live lecture is better than video lecture because you can ask questions.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#107

Post by acheron9383 »

porknubbins wrote: post #74
xeromal wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a dev and enjoy my articles too, but I'd say I perform better with videos in some domains. The first one to come to mind if mechanic work. If I want to learn how to change a mass inflow sensor, it's way easier to watch the job be performed than to read a description, even with pictures.

This is a good point, I think youtube has the potential to bring back DIY repair because its much easier to watch someone do and describe each step of a task than it is to decipher a service manual. Our language is severely deficient in ability to precisely describe physical, tactile, geometrical relationships of small parts and manual tasks.

YouTube is the place my father always talks about to get quick guides on repair work from. It's absurd the depth of knowledge YouTube can contain.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#108

Post by cirno »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #20
calcifer wrote: post #3

Seems like a useful service, but there is something quite ironic about having a video titled "The Risks of a Consolidating Internet" [1] hosted by Cloudflare. [1] https://cloudflare.tv/best-of/478d779664ac0f7ae7fe21064bdcb4...

I'd argue CDN services are our best defense against centralization like AWS and GCP. Cloudflare makes it possible for me to host something out of my house without getting taken down by a mild amount of attention.

Outside of DoS'ing (which is admittedly Cloudflare's wheelhouse, but a rare concern if you aren't posting anything controversial or in a highly competitive space), you can host a site on a $5/month VPS and very trivially withstand being the top post on HN, making Reddit r/all, etc. Not even 10% CPU utilization at peak. And that's without even going to the extreme of making your site static.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#109

Post by anoncow »

Pxtl wrote: post #96
ShamelessC wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've noticed certain communities that live on the edge of tech-savvy do this a lot. In particular emulator and jailbreak communities for video game consoles refuse to keep up-to-date text guides on things. Everything is done on YouTube which is such a terrible format when you need to follow 30-step lists and pause to click on many links throughout the process to download software, firmware and exploits.

I think Youtube's monetization does it... they want to earn cash from their guides. Is there any money in "Youtube for Articles?"

"YouTube for Articles" used to be blogs.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#110

Post by hardwaresofton »

peteforde wrote: post #62

I'm wrong about all sorts of things, but I have a funny feeling that we're going to look back someday and see this as the first of many companies of a significant size launching something that looks just like a TV station. I can't emphasize how incredibly brilliant this is: it appears to be a perfectly curated combination of pure marketing webinar, tutorials, educational lectures and who knows what else. This is an e…

IMO this might serve two purposes -- marketing and to showcase the fact that they can run your TV station.

This might be advertisement/marketing on two levels; both consumers and large corporations that might want to host a TV station.

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