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Re: Cloudflare TV

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What were you expecting?

I was expecting a video streaming CDN so anyone could build a Youtube/Twitch competitor without having to deal with storing, transcoding and (live)streaming video. I vaguely remember AWS offering something like this. Not sure how much money there is in this market but definitely sounds like a great product fit for someone like Cloudflare.

that's what I was hoping for when I saw the headline!

Re: Cloudflare TV

#54

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Not parent, but I thought it were a TV stream that filmed Cloudflare teams solving problems. Similar to the documentary[1] "Aardvark'd: 12 Weeks with Geeks" where they show the life of interns developing an actual product at Fog Creek, the first paying customer, bug fixes, etc. I appreciated that one, as I did "Code Rush" [3], an embedded documentary following people at Netscape in 1998, even shows the moment Jamie Z…

That's an interesting idea. Will suggest to the programming team. Probably tricky while we're all working from home. But… maybe in the future. A mini version of that is a show that John Graham-Cumming, our CTO, is going to be hosting weekly: https://cloudflare.tv/schedule/3RbW4iJZAbfN9OetUovuQ2 "Join Cloudflare CTO John Graham-Cumming as he interviews Cloudflare engineers and they discuss a 'war story' of a problem t…

That does sound interesting, but the link says it streams 6:30-7am. (I presume that’s a local time for my time zone?)

Any chance it will show up as a podcast or on YouTube, or available to watch at another time?

Re: Cloudflare TV

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What were you expecting?

I was expecting a video streaming CDN so anyone could build a Youtube/Twitch competitor without having to deal with storing, transcoding and (live)streaming video. I vaguely remember AWS offering something like this. Not sure how much money there is in this market but definitely sounds like a great product fit for someone like Cloudflare.

AWS offers the building blocks for this sort of thing via Elemental Media.

MediaConvert will transcode videos to various formats (MP4, HLS, MPEG Dash, etc).

MediaLive does on the fly transcoding for live streams, allows you to select various destinations (if you have a stream key for YouTube, for instance).

MediaPackage is commonly a destination for MediaLive and will act as an origination for live viewing (ideally with a CloudFront distribution in front of it). It also allows for easily converting the HLS to various outputs provided a timestamp (no frame specific clipping which is annoying); MediaConvert doesn't support HLS as input yet -- although you can do it.

MediaStore is basically a low-latency S3 for storage.

MediaTailor allows for stitching in ads.

So you still have to deal with transcoding, storage, etc. Azure has their own media services and Google uses (or bought?) Anvato. I think their service offerings are all pretty similar, but I could be wrong. Actually looking at Anvato, it looks like they provide a couple additional services.

Note: I don't work for AWS, but work for a video platform and we use AWS exclusively.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#56
I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format.

I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first manner. I know a few other people that feel the same, but I can only assume that Cloudflare have done some research on this and figured out that we're in the minority, and there is enough of a technical audience that would prefer to watch this kind of stuff than read it.

I know it's a lot of effort (although maybe automated transcription tools have simplified this?) but it would be awesome if text transcripts were made available of some of this content for the weirdos like me out there :)

Re: Cloudflare TV

#57

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That's an interesting idea. Will suggest to the programming team. Probably tricky while we're all working from home. But… maybe in the future. A mini version of that is a show that John Graham-Cumming, our CTO, is going to be hosting weekly: https://cloudflare.tv/schedule/3RbW4iJZAbfN9OetUovuQ2 "Join Cloudflare CTO John Graham-Cumming as he interviews Cloudflare engineers and they discuss a 'war story' of a problem t…

That does sound interesting, but the link says it streams 6:30-7am. (I presume that’s a local time for my time zone?) Any chance it will show up as a podcast or on YouTube, or available to watch at another time?

John is based in Lisbon, so it’s scheduled for his work hours. The live version, which will allow for the audience to interact and ask questions, will be during that time. I’d imagine many of those sessions will make it into our Best Of repository or be played in a recorded version at different times during the week.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#58
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Details and rationale: https://blog.cloudflare.com/ladies-and-gentlemen-cloudflare-...

Hi Matthew. Is there a way to connect with the team behind cloudflare.tv? We're building something similar (netflix original for tech conferences and meetups) and would be happy to talk with like-minded people.

Sure. Email: daneatcloudflaredotcom.

Re: Cloudflare TV

#59

Details and rationale: https://blog.cloudflare.com/ladies-and-gentlemen-cloudflare-...

Content is king and the content for this channel is poorly advertised. If you are launching a video channel, there shouldn't be 1000 words before you mention what the content is. Instead of focusing on describing why you built it, focus on telling people why they should tune in.

Re: Cloudflare TV

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I think 'live' television serves as an effective master clock for synchronizing shared experiences. I would expect that it's especially effective when the community of people who share a common interest is large enough that peer to peer election of that kind of timing authority would be infeasible without for-purpose technical infrastructure that either currently doesn't exist, or is so niche that the results are equ…

If you assume in advance that the same number of people will either tune in live or watch a stream non-synchronized, you may have a point. The problem is, once you account for the liveness also making it so fewer people tune in , it's not clear to me it's a win. I haven't been beholden to a TV schedule in... ummm... about seventeen years, I think? 2003 sounds about right for my first TiVo. (I was fresh out of college…

Live video survives in two situations: when you need to see the outcome as it happens (e.g. sports) and when the primary draw is individuals and interacting with them (e.g. streamers).
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