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Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by Afton »

mancerayder wrote: post #152
Afton wrote: post #131

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Please go see a sleep doctor, not a GP. I was diagnosed in my late 30s, and I was definitely not overweight at the time. In retrospect, many things that I thought were normal (or even positive) turned out to be very clear symptoms of chronic sleep deprivation.

Aside from sleepiness, what sort of symptoms did you have? Are you referring to mood disorder and/or inflammation?

One that really stands out is how quickly and easily I could fall asleep. Like, on a commuter bus, or watching a movie with people. And how I'd be asleep within seconds of getting into bed. I thought I was 'sleep efficient', turns I was just sleep deprived, but thought it was normal.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by vidarh »

downerending wrote: post #112
vidarh wrote: post #98

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You can buy your way past the queues either per treatment or with private insurance in the UK and still pay far less than in the US. Most of us wait because the prioritisation is by clinical need, and is usually 'good enough' and some because they can't afford it.

Are you paying less, all in? (e.g., taxes)

Yes, the portion of my taxes that goes to the NHS plus what my employer pays in private insurance is less than what Medicaid and Medicare costs per taxpayer in the US.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by vidarh »

jpxw wrote: post #127
downerending wrote: post #112

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Are you paying less, all in? (e.g., taxes)

We are, yes. But the average American would be shocked at the "customer experience" the average patient gets from the NHS. No such thing as a free lunch etc. And I think if you have private insurance (i.e: double paying), you'll probably be paying more than the average American. I don't know for sure though.

The per capita expenditure on Medicaid and Medicare in the US is substantially higher than the per capita expenditure on the NHS, but Medicare and Medicaid only cover about 20% of the US population.

On top of that UK private insurance is much cheaper because it is 'top up' - you're usually expected to see NHS GP's first etc. and use NHS emergency rooms.

As such while it is possible to end up paying more if you're very high income, very few people in the UK will pay more even with private insurance.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by maccard »

JadeNB wrote: post #114
maccard wrote: post #20

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> I suffer from asthma and frequent urination issues, both of which wake me up several times a night. I also suffer from asthma, you shouldn't be woken multiple times a night from it! That's very severe if it's happening with any regularlity and you should speak to a GP about it.

> I also suffer from asthma, you shouldn't be woken multiple times a night from it! That's very severe if it's happening with any regularlity and you should speak to a GP about it. I agree. Unfortunately I don't have a GP, and now's a hard time to get in as a new patient.

For sure. I unfortunately don't have a huge amount of novel advice to offer in managing asthma - regular moderate exercise, finding the right medication and avoiding known triggers were what got my asthma under control, going from using a reliever every day to handing back some of my older inhalers because they expired, in about 18 months.

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Post by yohannparis »

kortilla wrote: post #194
yohannparis wrote: post #45

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This a USA healthcare problem, and you should flag it as such.

Why? If going to a doctor is free for you, you know that.

Doctor are not free to me, I pay taxes. What I was trying to say, your example is an USA problem, most people do not have to decide if seeing a doctor is a financial decision. So your case is not universal, and should be mentioned.

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Post by kortilla »

jspash wrote: post #230
kortilla wrote: post #211

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A wallet so full of cash it was causing backaches sitting on it.

You're getting downvoted because it's probably not the reason that the OP was talking about, but sitting on a large wallet - full of cash, receipts or just junk - is VERY bad for your back. And most people don't even realise the damage it's causing. Also, it's insidious in the way that a wallet starts out thin and flat, then slowly gathers remnants of daily life. Getting larger and bulkier by the day. I'm being total…

Completely agree. Seinfeld episode covers this if that style of comedy is in your wheelhouse.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by abawany »

balfirevic wrote: post #82
jmpman wrote: post #75

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I bought a wearable blood oxygen meter as I was concerned I had apnea. A previous study was inconclusive (I don’t think I slept the whole night). If I sleep on my back, I’m certain I have apnea, but haven’t validated with the o2 meter. Sleeping on my stomach, my o2 levels were acceptable all night. Once I confirm apnea on my back, I’ll probably get another sleep study (I’ve gained at least 30lbs since the last), and…

> I bought a wearable blood oxygen meter as I was concerned I had apnea Any recommendation?

Not the OP but I use a Garmin Vivosmart 4 for this purpose - it is the cheapest Garmin I found with the SpOx functionality. I have a feeling it reads lower than a fingertip device due to its wrist location but it is very helpful to compare measurements across nights to see how things went.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by r00fus »

JadeNB wrote: post #10
r00fus wrote: post #8

I have heart issues (had a stent 2 years ago - early for my age) and have always slept poorly (mostly bad habits + diet). Sleep routine is the most essential thing to fix if you have resolved all your basic needs. It creates a feedback loop that helps to reduce stress and improve health. I've learned this the hard way - you shouldn't have to.

> Sleep routine is the most essential thing to fix if you have resolved all your basic needs. It creates a feedback loop that helps to reduce stress and improve health. How did you fix it? I suffer from asthma and frequent urination issues, both of which wake me up several times a night. It doesn't seem to matter much what my routines before sleep and after waking are if I am involuntary woken during sleep, and I'm s…

I cut out caffeine (drink green tea now) - this has cut my urination times. I also don't drink much liquids in the evenings.

I also have a daily exercise regimen (road biking) which has - somewhat counter-intuitively - led to a decrease in asthmatic symptoms (I still take meds, just a lot less frequently).

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by r00fus »

sojournerc wrote: post #94
JadeNB wrote: post #10

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> Sleep routine is the most essential thing to fix if you have resolved all your basic needs. It creates a feedback loop that helps to reduce stress and improve health. How did you fix it? I suffer from asthma and frequent urination issues, both of which wake me up several times a night. It doesn't seem to matter much what my routines before sleep and after waking are if I am involuntary woken during sleep, and I'm s…

My bladder capacity noticeably increased after I started adding a collagen supplement to my daily breakfast shake. I understand that it promotes and preserves elasticity in many tissues, including the bladder. It's also good for skin, hair, and connective tissue (tendons and cartilage).

Mind sharing what you currently consume in your breakfast shake?

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Post by sojournerc »

r00fus wrote: post #279
sojournerc wrote: post #94

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My bladder capacity noticeably increased after I started adding a collagen supplement to my daily breakfast shake. I understand that it promotes and preserves elasticity in many tissues, including the bladder. It's also good for skin, hair, and connective tissue (tendons and cartilage).

Mind sharing what you currently consume in your breakfast shake?

One banana, half-cup of frozen berries (strawberry, blueberry, blackberry), coconut milk to cover, scoop of powdered peanut-butter (costco), and a scoop of collagen powder: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079LXSGPL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b...
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