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Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by Afton »

mancerayder wrote: post #111
SaintGhurka wrote: post #23

If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

I asked a doctor about it and he said that since I'm not obese nor overweight, and I don't regularly wake up gasping, then I'm not a candidate. I've had fitful sleep as far as I can remember. I wake up (and remember it) probably 4-5 times a night and I've been told I toss and turn all the time. I find if I take a calmant or a substance I can sleep through the night. I have chronic inflammation includes Achilles' pain…

Please go see a sleep doctor, not a GP. I was diagnosed in my late 30s, and I was definitely not overweight at the time. In retrospect, many things that I thought were normal (or even positive) turned out to be very clear symptoms of chronic sleep deprivation.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by jason_pomerleau »

mancerayder wrote: post #111
SaintGhurka wrote: post #23

If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

I asked a doctor about it and he said that since I'm not obese nor overweight, and I don't regularly wake up gasping, then I'm not a candidate. I've had fitful sleep as far as I can remember. I wake up (and remember it) probably 4-5 times a night and I've been told I toss and turn all the time. I find if I take a calmant or a substance I can sleep through the night. I have chronic inflammation includes Achilles' pain…

BMI of 19 with severe sleep apnea checking in. Never woke up gasping, never struggled staying awake, but I did feel like I enjoyed the occasional afternoon nap, and my partner reported snoring.

It’s worth getting checked out. I ended up going the dental appliance route because CPAP machines feel like a torture device to me. Anecdotally it’s made a noticeable difference. Haven’t had a nap in ages.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by PhantomGremlin »

cachestash wrote: post #71
goldenkey wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a sleep study done but was so uncomfortable I couldn't fall asleep...all the wires and crap. Waste of money.

Same happened to me. I felt pressured into sleeping and as a result, I could not sleep.

I was in the same situation, very hard for me to fall asleep. Finally the technician gave me a pill, perhaps Ambien. I fell asleep and they got the data they needed.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by tartoran »

unishark wrote: post #93
tartoran wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, fixing out the lung capacity, musculature of the diaphragm, throat, tongue, etc is really the cure. And loosing excess weight if that is the case. CPAP, while effective and life changing is a band aid that the medical industry can make money on. I don't hear anyone saying that the CPAP should be used in conjunction with restorative exercises. I'm glad you found this solution.

I'm pretty sure healthcare providers everywhere inform people who need to exercise and lose weight that they need to exercise and lose weight. Not really fair to ding them for making money on other treatments for people who can't bring themselves to do it the natural way.

You may be right, I've never been diagnosed and put on CPAP personally and can't say whether that is true or not. But in general the western medicine has come to a point that it tends to offer solutions that are quite good at reducing the symptoms and generally don't address the underlying cause. It may be incompetence of the system or it may as well be financial incentives, slightly steered towards not providing a cure and but milking the patients for more money with symptom reducers. But on you're right on one thing though, a lot patients are lazy and would choose the quick fix over doing some of the work themselves.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by Afton »

cachestash wrote: post #105
theli0nheart wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're all going to think I am a crazy It's only crazy that you're not using a medical device that's built for this! Your head's in the right place, though. ;) https://goodmorningsnoresolution.com/ > Mouth breathing is horrendous for your health and well being. I completely agree with this, but using an APAP and breathing through one's mouth are unrelated. There are full-face masks that let one breath through the m…

> medical device that's built for this! You don't need to spend $90 on some patented thing. Use simple 3M Micropore Surgical Tape 2.5cm x 9.14m, its what every one else uses for mouth taping and its exactly what a lot of dentists will suggest is used, although a few more folks are using SomniFix Sleep Strips as well. Tape works absolutely fine though, and its the consensus go to by most users.

Literally 2' of elastic fabric and some velcro...

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by theli0nheart »

cachestash wrote: post #105
theli0nheart wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're all going to think I am a crazy It's only crazy that you're not using a medical device that's built for this! Your head's in the right place, though. ;) https://goodmorningsnoresolution.com/ > Mouth breathing is horrendous for your health and well being. I completely agree with this, but using an APAP and breathing through one's mouth are unrelated. There are full-face masks that let one breath through the m…

> medical device that's built for this! You don't need to spend $90 on some patented thing. Use simple 3M Micropore Surgical Tape 2.5cm x 9.14m, its what every one else uses for mouth taping and its exactly what a lot of dentists will suggest is used, although a few more folks are using SomniFix Sleep Strips as well. Tape works absolutely fine though, and its the consensus go to by most users.

> and its the consensus go to by most users

I can't attest to relatively popularity, but this device was independently suggested by both my dentist and my ENT. It works really well.

Tape seems like a great option too, but it seems like it'd come off easily? I might give it a shot.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by amwelles »

mancerayder wrote: post #111
SaintGhurka wrote: post #23

If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

I asked a doctor about it and he said that since I'm not obese nor overweight, and I don't regularly wake up gasping, then I'm not a candidate. I've had fitful sleep as far as I can remember. I wake up (and remember it) probably 4-5 times a night and I've been told I toss and turn all the time. I find if I take a calmant or a substance I can sleep through the night. I have chronic inflammation includes Achilles' pain…

A (healthy-weight) roommate of mine would regularly stop breathing in his sleep. He was convinced he was fine until his girlfriend finally got him to do a sleep study. Got his CPAP machine shortly after!

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by JoshTriplett »

dcolkitt wrote: post #80
SaintGhurka wrote: post #23

If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

This may sound crazy, but for those who can't tolerate a CPAP, an effective alternative is playing the didgeridoo.[1] Anecdotally my wife and kids were complaining about my snoring, and I bought one for $40 off Amazon. Not only has my snoring improved, but my lung capacity has improved. Plus it's just fun to play. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1360393/

In my case, I doubled my lung capacity through swimming, which did wonders for my health.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

#139

Post by ip26 »

mancerayder wrote: post #111
SaintGhurka wrote: post #23

If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

I asked a doctor about it and he said that since I'm not obese nor overweight, and I don't regularly wake up gasping, then I'm not a candidate. I've had fitful sleep as far as I can remember. I wake up (and remember it) probably 4-5 times a night and I've been told I toss and turn all the time. I find if I take a calmant or a substance I can sleep through the night. I have chronic inflammation includes Achilles' pain…

Had terrible quality sleep for years. Snored, and had various other problems. But I am young and my BMI is 18 so I got brushed off by sleep lab after one night of testing didn't show apneas. Eventually figured out it was all due to my nose which barely functioned after healing crooked from an accident as a child. Septoplasty changed my life.

Re: Fitful nightly sleep linked to chronic inflammation, hardened arteries

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Post by UweSchmidt »

mancerayder wrote: post #111
SaintGhurka wrote: post #23

If your doctor tells you to do a sleep study, do it. If, as a result, they tell you to get a CPAP, get it. Those things are life-changing. I felt like an old man at 50 years old. My back was so stiff I couldn't put on my socks. When I got out of bed in the morning I felt so fragile, like my joints were all inflamed - especially my Achilles' tendons. I was too tired to do anything beyond 6 pm. Now, 51, I feel totally…

I asked a doctor about it and he said that since I'm not obese nor overweight, and I don't regularly wake up gasping, then I'm not a candidate. I've had fitful sleep as far as I can remember. I wake up (and remember it) probably 4-5 times a night and I've been told I toss and turn all the time. I find if I take a calmant or a substance I can sleep through the night. I have chronic inflammation includes Achilles' pain…

Could fitful sleep be a symptom of overtraining?
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