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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by blueterminal »

commandlinefan wrote: post #152
hart_russell wrote: post #125

And once again we’re back in 2018 trying to figure out whether these private companies should be considered “public squares”. I personally think speech censorship, even by a private company, is wrong. However, there’s so much grey area that one could argue either way.

> speech censorship, even by a private company It seems to me that Facebook (or at least Mark Zuckerberg) actually agrees with you and wants FB to be an open platform, but are being pressured by activists to censor against their wishes. This kind of goes beyond "they're a private company, they can do what they want": it would appear that they can't do what they want.

I am just amazed that people are for private companies censoring politicians. You really don't want to see everything politicians want to tell you? Even if it's a complete lie? You want Mark and Jack and others to hide that info from you?

What is going on? I feel I am completely losing touch. It's scary.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by zelphirkalt »

Congratulation to new found insight.

I am wondering though, how much eye closing exactly is needed, to work for FB for any stretch of time.

I guess for some people the glass can still overspill and they can only take that much. At some point some reason comes along, that makes it easier to just leave and give the exterior a good explanation for leaving. That's actually a good thing. Shows, that some conscience is still there.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by briefcomment »

kiplkipl wrote: post #121
12xo wrote: post #39

Social media is fast food. If you eat it all the time it makes you feel awful and will destroy your mental and physical health. But its cheap, easy to get and tastes really good... So stupid people love it.

You're on social media

I think image based social media is a beast of its own.

The emotional swings I get from images far exceeds what I get from text.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by andrewflnr »

simion314 wrote: post #59
sktrdie wrote: post #9

Presidents have all kinds of privileges that others don’t. Why should their privilege on social-media be diminished? To me the problem is not the platform but the fact that they have such exceptional privilege to begin with. What I don't understand is how you can be Facebook employee and also think the platform is the problem - lots of these especially in the React community [1]. If you believe Facebook is the proble…

>Why should their privilege on social-media be diminished? Why should a president, prime minister or government/parliament member should have "privilege" ? should they be allowed to swear or show their naked ass on public TV because they are special? The rules should apply equal to all citizens no exceptions for the ones in power. IMO the algorithm that decides if a post should be banned or not should not have as inp…

The next sentence of GP is

> To me the problem is not the platform but the fact that they have such exceptional privilege to begin with.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by kortilla »

kristiandupont wrote: post #66
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't agree that severing professional ties over political disputes is admirable. For society to function, people need to be willing to work with others whose politics they find distasteful.

>For society to function, people need to be willing to work with others whose politics they find distasteful. Why? I am not on some high horse here, I am not sure what I would be willing to put up with if I had no other options but I certainly prefer working with companies that have values that are aligned with my own.

Because unless you are a bootlicker (or the company is yours), the company cannot possibly have all of the same values as you.

There are too many actions that are political when they come down to it (pricing products, marketing products, choosing partners, choosing tools, choosing customers, choosing features, choosing charities, etc). There is no possible way that all of them are going to align with your views.

The reason that works is that you’re just able to not care that they don’t.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by kiplkipl »

lizardking wrote: post #132
kiplkipl wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're on social media

And?

Then it seems the poster does find some value in social media. I'm saying that HN is social media - descended from Reddit, in fact - to point out that the popular stance of Facebook being inherently evil seems to forgive this website for doing the same thing.

This kind of scare has happened with all media: games, TV, film, fiction books. If there's a difference between the fast-food social media and this website, I'd like to hear what it is.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

mchusma wrote: post #49

I don't understand why doesn't Facebook just: -Allow all posts -Allow users to customize what they want to see (e.g. "dont show me posts that glorify violence" or "only allow covid posts that match WHO guidelines" or "allow exceptions from political figures or of historical significance") and allow users to ban hide posts that are found untruthful by third parties (snopes, etc). To me effectively everyone wins. Faceb…

What do you do about illegal content?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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Post by seesawtron »

kiplkipl wrote: post #177
seesawtron wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is a forum, but very different from places like Facebook and Reddit.

If that is a notable categorisation then what is the difference that makes forums better?

I feel the trigger of social media is getting dopamine-like reward signal when people like/share your posts. Its underlying acceptance of "you" aspect of it, rather than the idea itself that you share. In a forum, being an anonymous user, it doesn't affect you as much on a personal level which allows for a more rational discussion by detaching the "personal" side of you from it. Of course, that is only true in theory as we are all prone to taking everything personally (myself included) but I try consciously to change that.
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