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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #39

Social media is fast food. If you eat it all the time it makes you feel awful and will destroy your mental and physical health. But its cheap, easy to get and tastes really good... So stupid people love it.

You're on social media

And?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

#133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't agree that severing professional ties over political disputes is admirable. For society to function, people need to be willing to work with others whose politics they find distasteful.

>For society to function, people need to be willing to work with others whose politics they find distasteful. Why? I am not on some high horse here, I am not sure what I would be willing to put up with if I had no other options but I certainly prefer working with companies that have values that are aligned with my own.

Because otherwise it becomes impossible to truly engage in politics. If everyone sorts themselves into liberal companies that only allow liberal values and conservative companies that only allow conservative values, how are we supposed to have an honest debate on anything?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #74
post #49

I don't understand why doesn't Facebook just: -Allow all posts -Allow users to customize what they want to see (e.g. "dont show me posts that glorify violence" or "only allow covid posts that match WHO guidelines" or "allow exceptions from political figures or of historical significance") and allow users to ban hide posts that are found untruthful by third parties (snopes, etc). To me effectively everyone wins. Faceb…

It's not about users being outraged about what they can read. "Those other people are idiots and will kill us all without some rules" is a basic human conceit. These people calling for censorship on Facebook don't want to see that stuff, sure, but way more importantly they want FB to censor so that other people CAN'T read that stuff. They think that if they shout loud enough, they will get to decide what other, more…

> they want FB to censor so that other people CAN'T read that stuff

I'm having a hard time believing that they want to stop with Facebook, either. I suspect this will move on to hosting providers next.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #105

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

#136

I wonder if this is related to JWZ's call yesterday for Facebook employees to quit. [edit: Removed link. JWZ: Not cool. Archive.org link in reply below]

ProTip: don't link or click jwz-dot-org directly from HN. It's ugly.

Copy/paste link, or intermediate through archive.org or similar.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200602191338/https://www.jwz.o...

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes you can effect change from within.

Having previously been involved in organizations with racist/sexist leadership, I've found it generally to be the case that the nail that sticks up gets hammered down. I have observed that leaving those organizations and then drawing public attention to their problems tends to be a significantly more effective tactic.

Yes, my experience is unfortunately the same. But I certainly won't fault someone for thinking they could make a difference. I don't have any nice things to say about Facebook but I'm certain that I could find plenty of nice things to say about the people who work there.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

#138

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

He's trading practically 0 money (actually might be paid more in his next job if he selects one with a bit less growth potential) for a lot of virtue signaling value. I mean nothing evil, but not that admirable and altruistic.

Real good deeds aren't announced.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

#139
post #9

Presidents have all kinds of privileges that others don’t. Why should their privilege on social-media be diminished? To me the problem is not the platform but the fact that they have such exceptional privilege to begin with. What I don't understand is how you can be Facebook employee and also think the platform is the problem - lots of these especially in the React community [1]. If you believe Facebook is the proble…

Equal protection is one of the founding principles of the US. So is freedom of speech.

Facebook is not the government, but they are the de facto public square. They shouldn’t have one set of rules for leaders and another, stricter, set for their critics.

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