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Word on the ground is target only started getting looted after it tried to close its doors to protestors looking to buy water and medical supplies.
Unlikely, were they on their way to church also?
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Why did the cops shoot tear gas at peaceful protestors yesterday, when they didn't two weeks ago when armed militia stormed the statehouse? The cops brought this on themselves. There's nobody to blame here but them.
Because the "armed militia" that "stormed" the statehouse had no designs on doing any harm. It's really that simple. The "protestors" that got some tear gas shot at them went on to burn down some buildings that had nothing to do with this tragedy. You gonna blame them or nah?
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#143Native Minnesotan here — living in Minneapolis — that has lived on both coasts: With all that's happening the last few days, please don't generally associate Minnesotans with the violent riots that have captured the attention of everyone. The peacefulness of the protests and gatherings has been overshadowed by the violence. There are countless examples of Minnesotans standing up to those who choose to loot and destro…
MPLS homeowner here (although I no longer live there).
I hear what you are saying and I am sympathetic to it - especially given my broad experience with all facets of Minnesotans all over the state.
However this violence should reflect on Minnesotans, including my own many years of residence there. We failed to make investments in the built and the social infrastructure - including policing - that would have made it impossible for bad actors like this to carry a badge.
It's very easy to look romantically at the Prairie Home Companion caricature of the Good Lutherans that quietly get the job done - and I wish that it were true. The fact is, we let I-35 drop into the river just like any other bunch of assholes.
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A police helicopter manned with police officers with long guns is a weapons platform too. What's the difference?
Police helicopters don’t regularly kill dozens of people. The helicopter is more akin to a cop walking around with a sidearm. Still not great, but less overtly threatening.
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people do, indeed, riot and destroy things to steal and loot. That's the point. Notice it's not the police station being burned down.
Friend, you have no idea what you are talking about. Please do as the other guy said and shut up and listen for five minutes. Protesters took over the precinct station that the murderers worked at and burned it to the ground last night. https://kstp.com/news/protests-continue-in-twin-cities-st-pa...
The factual correction in the second half of your comment would have made a fine contribution by itself. Indeed other users posted something corrections, without attacking anybody:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23353800
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#146Can a TV news channel operate one as well?
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Where do you draw the distinction between a drone (presumably unarmed) vs a police helicopter?
Police helicopters don't have hellfire missiles as standard optional armament. Also police helicopters are operated by local/state forces. This is a federal agency which is way out of its jurisdiction.
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Police helicopters don't have hellfire missiles as standard optional armament. Also police helicopters are operated by local/state forces. This is a federal agency which is way out of its jurisdiction.
Do 70mm rockets count? https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/Local-police-... But really, there's little difference between a lot of civilian and light military aircraft. The Bell 206 that your local news station probably flies around was developed as a military helicopter.
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Because the "armed militia" that "stormed" the statehouse had no designs on doing any harm. It's really that simple. The "protestors" that got some tear gas shot at them went on to burn down some buildings that had nothing to do with this tragedy. You gonna blame them or nah?
Lol. The protests started peaceful. There were no calls to burn down a police station. The first window shattered was done so by an undercover cop. The first violent action taken was by the cops. So the people responded in turn. Nope, I don't blame them. They tried kneeling, so the president got a football player fired. They tried peacefully protesting, the cops showed up armed to the teeth and fired at people with p…
This must be a joke. If you watched any live feed from the last couple days there are countless examples of people calling for exactly that.
>They tried kneeling, so the president got a football player fired.
Yeah and the next logical step here is to burn down businesses, probably run by immigrants no less.
I stand by my previous statement that America is farther on the path toward collapse than I previously surmised, given the "audacity" of commenters like you who seem to enjoy cheering on destruction and death.
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Perhaps this is too political, but the only tool they actually needed was one they had the whole time. Charge the offices based upon the evidence and open a more detailed investigation. The military equipment was entirely unnecessary - but it's very availability makes opportunity for bad decisions.
In all probability, union rules stand in the way of making any quick arrests. Their hands are tied. It is better for them to appear slow and do things by the book than try to appease the irrational mob. They'll eventually get to where the mob wants to go rather than ending up with the cops "winning" in some way due violations of union rules and procedures.