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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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> those comments don't get flagged out of future HN search results. Triplebyte is a YC company and HN is a YC site, so economic interests are aligned with nuking highly critical comments

That's a natural assumption, but if you think a step further it's not hard to see why it's false: you shouldn't optimize for local optima, especially if doing that would ruin your global optimum. When you have a goose that lays golden eggs, don't risk the goose for an egg. YC's economic interest in HN is having it be a happy, thriving community. That dominates all other considerations put together. A fast way to ruin…

> When you have a goose that lays golden eggs, you don't risk the goose for an egg.

I would agree that you shouldn't, but all too often we see companies do.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#543
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Crunchbase tells me that you have raised $50m. This means you have someone who runs your communications and you hopefully have some kind of PR or crisis management firm on retainer or at least in your Rolodex. Call them on the phone right now before you make more bad decisions.

Ah the good old physical Rolodex! You can rely on that not to make itself public in 7 days.

Your comment made me buy one on eBay. I’m going to use it for a telephone operated jukebox.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#544
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What’s the next step from here? Public profiles themselves aren’t very useful in of themselves. Asking as someone who has been on the platform for a while but has not found any success through it. I have other thoughts but would like to hear your plans before adding.

We plan to add more engineering-specific sections to the profiles. I think there's a lot of room to just display what matters to engineers/eng hiring managers better. Then we want to use the profiles to push the industry to look beyond traditional credentials (school, work at top companies). Recruiters say that they want to do this, but we need to get them off of LinkedIn where everything is designed around the tradi…

why ignore the legal precedent? it's more than personal opinion in every sense of the word, it's an already hashed-out question that had a very clear consequence. "Recruiters say" doesn't even come into the conversation -- this has been tried before. do you have a legal team? do you pay them more than pocket change? god help you, but at a certain point you chose to ignore the book

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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> Really sorry that you think this is awful. Classic non-apology apology. You should not be sorry that he thinks it is awful, you should be sorry that it is awful . Nobody cares about how much work you put into what amounts to an illegal disclosure of personal data.

Indeed. That's on par with: "I'm sorry you're an idiot." Not an apology, an insult, and feigning to be apologizing about you (which is doubly insulting).

Idk why you were downvoted, this is totally true.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#546
post #66

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We're not making anyone's job search details pubic. All that the profile will show is that an engineer created a Triplebyte profile at some point in the past, and any badges they earned.

“We aren’t making anyone’s subscription status public. All that their profile will show is the fact at some point in time they registered an account on Pornhub with their email address and real name, and any badges they earned.”

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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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I first want to express my gratitude for your thoughtful reply, and more generally your willingness to consistently engage with the HN community with both reason and compassion. I have no doubt you have the HN community's best interests at heart - there is simply legitimate disagreement about how best to accomplish that. Your cooperative communication style undoubtedly goes a long way in allaying the community's conc…

To be honest, the reason I don't do it is fear. Normally I'd say "we" in a sentence like that, but in this case the fear is mine. Maybe such a device would satisfy everyone's curiosity and make the community as happy as a gently tickled baby. Users would raise questions, other users would helpfully look up what happened in the moderation log, and still other helpful users would chime in with past examples of how we d…

I think that if the moderation becomes public, it becomes a target and not an effective way to measure behavior. People will try to game the ways they interact with moderators. They'll start to argue and lawyer you against yourself -- "you didn't demote this post but you demoted mine". I think any of us who have done user moderation for more than a month has seen this kind of behavior.

Transparency is great in public institutions that spend our tax money. In communities like this, we just need a chieftain to handle our disputes fairly and keep us all from going nuts every so often. Those of us who have been coming back for years already know that you do that, or at least try your best to be fair and open and neutral.

I doubt you could keep everyone happy by releasing a log of moderator actions. People complain now, but look at ArbCom on Wikipedia, which makes all the decisions in public, and there are websites devoted to trashing the process there. And if you're not making people happier, nor making their interactions here more pleasant or informative, what is the goal again?

Plus, it's not just moderators getting a chance to make mistakes, it's also the users. I don't want to end up in a log somewhere for my terrible posts. You've told me to improve before, and I did. At least I've tried to. Admittedly my posts haven't been high quality lately. Anyway, the more formalized the process becomes, the less human we're all allowed to be. That can be good or bad, but I think in this case it's been good. Most of the reactions to OP tend to think that privacy is valuable sometimes.

I could be wrong, of course. Do what you think is best for us. That's why we keep coming back.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#548
post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

I'm glad you posted this because I otherwise might not have found that way to delete my account.

Here's what it said when I did:

> We will verify your request using the information associated with your account. Government identification may be required and we may ask you for more information in order to verify your identify.

So I can change my profile name to Seymour Butts, but deleting my account that I have credentials for may require government ID that you never asked me for? WTF

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#549
This should become a new web app, or something. A podcast, email newsletter, what have you. I.E. How Not to Ruin a Company Which gives examples of companies doing what what Ammon did, etc. Pretty cool, IMO! Hahhahahaha. (sorry,just finished watching the Last Airbender, so I'm a little jumpy/laughy).

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

#550
post #73

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

Thanks Ammon. I requested to delete my profile (I was trialling to see if we could use your service for our hiring pipeline. Narrator: we will not).
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