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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by slow_donkey » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:32 PM UTC

crabasa wrote: post #295

I'm not optimistic in Triplebyte's ability to execute here because I think they fundamentally think of developers as "content" and recruiters as the primary customer. Shameless plug: If anyone would like to create a developer profile that you have full control over and that doesn't expose you to recruiter spam, please check out what I'm building at https://fizbuz.com .

Unfortunately that's the easiest way to build a real business around recruiting. Same with car sales. If you do your job well, the user won't come back for a few years. Therefore the user has to be the recruiting companies which guarantee repeat business

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by b112 » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:33 PM UTC

crabasa wrote: post #295

I'm not optimistic in Triplebyte's ability to execute here because I think they fundamentally think of developers as "content" and recruiters as the primary customer. Shameless plug: If anyone would like to create a developer profile that you have full control over and that doesn't expose you to recruiter spam, please check out what I'm building at https://fizbuz.com .

FYI, your profile link points to an old URL for your website..

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by silverreads » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:34 PM UTC

Really bad move. Shows the investors are putting the squeeze on them for new revenue, what they can do is now more important to them than what they should do. Well, good thing I used my 'junk mail' domain to sign up with them.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by friendlybus » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:37 PM UTC

peteretep wrote: post #215

The fundamental disconnect here is that Ammon seems to think this data belongs to him, for uses he deems appropriate, rather than belonging to his users. This works for Facebook and LinkedIn because of network effects, but not for some random staffing agency with a tech gimmick. If Adecco or MichaelPage did this it’d attract the attention of ambitious public prosecutors worldwide. It’s almost a shame, as the idea its…

The only big tech company I've seen take the public stance that the user owns their own data is IBM (of all people).

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by lianmunoz » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:37 PM UTC

Not that I'm at all excusing all the shadiness of this opt-out nonsense, but just wanted to throw out that the notice that they may require ID to delete your account might be coming from the California Consumer Privacy Act. Source: https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/story/2020-01-01...

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by dfee » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:40 PM UTC

guessmyname wrote: post #358

iandanforth wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's Digg again?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digg

I believe that was a joke.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by ashtonkem » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:41 PM UTC

ammon wrote: post #66

interactivecode wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey Ammon, the idea is good, it's solid. Nothing bad there. I think everyone knows LinkedIn has it's issues. But like come on. Why make everyone's private job search public? by default no less!? How can we trust triplebite with our career, finance information and personal information when you pull these kinds of moves. Make a good product. If it's actually good people will sign up.

We're not making anyone's job search details pubic. All that the profile will show is that an engineer created a Triplebyte profile at some point in the past, and any badges they earned.

Which is enough to identify people who are looking for a new job.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by king_magic » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:43 PM UTC

ammon wrote: post #73

ganstyles wrote: post #24

This is horrible, what a breach of trust. I used TB to stealthily interview for jobs, had a good experience. Recommended them to others. Now I see that if I hadn't seen this post, I wouldn't have known about this and those details would have been public, which had the potential to seriously undermine me at my current position. I'll opt out tomorrow, but according to others it sounds like the visibility link was somew…

Your Triplebyte profile will NOT contain any data/details about you or your job search that will undermine you at your current employer. We should have included a screenshot and more details in the email. I'll talk to my team about following up with more details tomorrow. We are talking about a lightweight profile, like your Stack Overflow or HN profile, to provide us the canvas to release badges. That's it.

What you're doing is wrong and unethical, period. Do the right thing and walk back this ridiculous plan. Until then, I will do everything I can do to avoid your service and have others in my network do the same.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:43 PM UTC

ammon wrote: post #67

yaacov wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for coming to answer questions here even though you’re likely to get dragged through the mud for this decision. FWIW, I agree with other commenters that this is a betrayal of trust but I don’t have anything original to add.

Well, sorry that you feel this way. I don't agree right now (clearly). But I'll certainly take this seriously and think more about it/listen to feedback. We're talking about relatively basic profiles, to give us the canvas to launch public achievement badges (that we hope allow us to better help people who don't have traditional credentials). My view, building this, is that we're not displaying anything more private…

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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by ashtonkem » Sat, May 23, 2020, 4:47 PM UTC

libso wrote: post #330

Chill everyone. Ammon didn't mean to betray anyone's trust. He just executed public profiles feature very poorly and compared them to profiles on anonymous platforms which was naive. Before a lot of people see this and delete their profile if I were him I'd do this> +Continue keeping it an opt-out feature. But give a long lead time. A month or two. Regular emails warning that profile will go public and a personalized…

The patently bad faith arguments Ammon has been making here really undermines your point. No, whether or not I was looking for a job is not at all the same as a Stack Overflow profile, at all.