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Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by kyleashipley »

asidiali wrote: post #316
bootlooped wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"They make you take a 2 hour live coding interview with a Triplebyte engineer, with the promise that if you pass, you won’t need to do any more technical interviews with companies through Triplebyte, only “final-round personality-style on-sites”." I was never given the impression that there would be no more technical interviews after the Triplebyte one. They were always crystal clear with me that there would be 2 ste…

Thanks for sharing! They told me there would be a 30m pitch call followed by an all day of on-sites that were explicitly not whiteboarding sessions or technical assessments . Also, I still did have several back and forth calls with companies I was connected with - it wasn’t just the one half-hour call and then on-sites. Here’s the exact email from TripleByte upon passing the quiz: “ Here's how it works: 1. We'll show…

Most companies define their process as something like Phone Screen (recruiter) -> Technical Screen (engineer via phone or take-home project) -> On-Site (mix of culture + tech). Triplebyte helps you skip those first two steps.

I agree that the terminology could be more clear, but it seems like they borrowed existing lingo from recruiters here.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by wilde »

derivagral wrote: post #272
peteretep wrote: post #215

The fundamental disconnect here is that Ammon seems to think this data belongs to him, for uses he deems appropriate, rather than belonging to his users. This works for Facebook and LinkedIn because of network effects, but not for some random staffing agency with a tech gimmick. If Adecco or MichaelPage did this it’d attract the attention of ambitious public prosecutors worldwide. It’s almost a shame, as the idea its…

Isn't this legally the case? There's a random place on the internet and people upload details. Not payment info, and I honestly am not clear on how much the rest is protected (USA). This is exactly what Zuckerberg called people "dumb fucks" for, and I don't think anything (legally) has changed. I'm on your side as far as the "why the hell is this the case", but I think this is the world that (USA and others) live in.

I filed an FTC complaint. I'd encourage other concerned folks do the same, since out of court settlements with the FTC are how this is currently adjudicated in the US.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by kerkeslager »

localcrisis wrote: post #129
travisjungroth wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How can you work with them to achieve your product goals without undermining your relationship with them? Literally just make it opt-in.

Opt-In doesn't help them achieve their product goals. Triplebyte as founded isn't working so they're trying to take a valuable asset they have (engineers looking for jobs) to compete with linkedin The problem with bootstrapping a linkedin competitor is the same chicken-and-egg problem with networks generally. You need people on it for people to join it. What Triplebyte wants is your identity public. That's the produc…

If their goal is to have my identity public, that's a pretty bad goal--certainly not a profitable one.

I own my own business. I'm not looking for a job. Unless something goes really horribly wrong, I won't be looking for a job in 24 months, or ever. Having my profile public doesn't add to the signal on their platform, it adds to the noise. Having my profile public is a waste of time for me, them, and employers looking for someone with my skills.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by heliodor »

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

Since account deletion is such a hurdle, edit your profile to replace your name and info with profanity and let's see how Google and the various content filters will like that once the profile goes public.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by gruez »

anemosg wrote: post #196
franciscop wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think everyone here would agree taking on Linkedin is a very good thing to do, especially Triplebyte who was already in a good position and fairly well considered here. But not this way, not forcing all of your users into a public profile by default and making them provide gvmt ids to delete their accounts. Your users gave you their data for a specific purpose, and you took it and used it totally differently. This…

I am from EU, I live in Switzerland and I can tell it clearly is a GDPR violation. I’ve just sent a reply email and a account deletion request. The govt ID thing is shady, given the fact that they never requested it at sign up and that wouldn’t serve as a proof. I hope they will delete my account by the mentioned 30 days or I will fill a lawsuit. Besides common sense, privacy and trust do not work like that, at least…

>I hope they will delete my account by the mentioned 30 days or I will fill a lawsuit

AFAIK unlike the CCPA, there's no private right of action for the GDPR. That is to say, you can't actually sue the violators yourself, you need to complain to your country's national data protection authority, and they have to take action.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by LamaOfRuin »

darekkay wrote: post #273
m11a wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a horrible way companies try to discourage data subjects from exercising their rights. This is not lawful under both the GDPR and the CCPA. If Triplebyte follow through with their request against an EU or California resident, they'd be breaking data protection laws. If comments here are any indication, too many people, being unaware of their rights, may fall for it though.

> This is not lawful under both the GDPR and the CCPA. INAL, but from my understanding that's exactly what GDPR itself suggests to do: > The controller should use all reasonable measures to verify the identity of a data subject who requests access, in particular in the context of online services and online identifiers. Thats mainly because [2]: > There is a very real concern of fraudulent requests from bad actors, wh…

That's only true if they don't have another way to verify your identity, not if you're logging in to an account using your username and password in order to delete it.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by iandanforth »

peteretep wrote: post #215

The fundamental disconnect here is that Ammon seems to think this data belongs to him, for uses he deems appropriate, rather than belonging to his users. This works for Facebook and LinkedIn because of network effects, but not for some random staffing agency with a tech gimmick. If Adecco or MichaelPage did this it’d attract the attention of ambitious public prosecutors worldwide. It’s almost a shame, as the idea its…

What's Digg again?

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by jacquesm »

aidos wrote: post #204

Wow. Thanks for this. I ignored the email because Triplebyte just feels a bit spammy to me now so I mentally block it out. Have logged in to stop this from happening and currently apparently I'm "Open to discussing new opportunities", which is news to me. On trying to change it to "Not interested in any new opportunities" there's a dropdown that says "I’d be open to new opportunities in:" and most you can set it to i…

The whole government ID thingy is really beyond the pale. Just imagine: you never needed it to sign up in the first place. So now after proving to be not worthy of your trust, tone deaf and ethically deficient, to delete your account you need to give them even more information.

This company deserves to die.

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by MandieD »

arcturus17 wrote: post #184

Wow, what a dumpster fire. The CEO coming in here and trying to defend that this is actually a great idea is only making things worse. I'm guessing they don't operate in Europe, because this would be a massive violation of many European and national privacy regulations. Maybe they should take a hint from this - the fact that they can pull it off in the US doesn't mean it's morally acceptable.

I have the beginnings of a profile there, despite being conspicuously in Germany, because I took the test and applied to be an interviewer.

Too many people think US citizen != EU resident (and therefore not a data subject covered by GDPR)

Re: Tell HN: Interviewed with Triplebyte? Your profile is about to become public

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Post by libso »

Chill everyone. Ammon didn't mean to betray anyone's trust. He just executed public profiles feature very poorly and compared them to profiles on anonymous platforms which was naive. Before a lot of people see this and delete their profile if I were him I'd do this>

+Continue keeping it an opt-out feature. But give a long lead time. A month or two. Regular emails warning that profile will go public and a personalized screenshot of what exactly would be included. +If users want to approve the public profile, they will stop receiving these emails. They should also be able to choose who to show in their profiles. +If users forget to approve or deny, make an extremely minimalist profile public with only initials of the name listed.

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