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MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by arkis22 »

fphhotchips wrote: post #691
mindfulhack wrote: post #677

I still love macOS, a lot. Since moving over after the disaster that was Windows 8 (and by then I was already using MacBook hardware), I've become a loving power user e.g. with AppleScript and setting up hotkeys or other ways to do absolutely anything I want on the screen. It really is still as powerfully customisable as Linux. Turn off SIP if need be. My only problem in moving to Linux software is that I prefer Appl…

I have a 2019 Macbook Pro 16in and I hate it. It runs exceptionally hot (leading to massive performance problems), doesn't get enough power from the adapter to start with no battery, doesn't play nicely with my display, needs restarting every couple of days so Chrome doesn't crash and takes forever to boot. That's just the technical problems. I'm willing to give the UI a break, since it's probably as much me adjustin…

Mine starts spinning up the fan (theres kind of a pattern as to when), heating up the entire computer. The computer previously had been fine.

I usually have to restart and reset the "SMC" to stop the fan from nuking the computer.

I can let the computer drop to 5% battery life and the fan will turn off and the computer will cool down. Which is the opposite of what you want if it was actually overheating.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by cageface »

pmarreck wrote: post #708
xvector wrote: post #650

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There is no excuse for this except for sheer, utter incompetence. Everyone involved in writing and shipping this should be ashamed of themselves.

There’s going to be a big exodus of open source developers going to Linux-powered platforms instead of the standard Mac laptop because of this ridiculousness

This is happening at my company already because docker performance on Macs is terrible.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by pmarreck »

danudey wrote: post #353
glofish wrote: post #334

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IMHO the original choice of the path seems incredibly ill-advised and the main burden lies with the original developers. sometimes old errors and mistakes come back and bite

I second this. Any tool which creates its own directory in the filesystem root (and cannot run from any other location) is inherently doing it wrong by any measure.

That's not necessarily true because it ensures that you own an entire namespace separate from the OS install, which in Nix's case makes a lot of design sense given its use case(s).

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by pmarreck »

zanethomas wrote: post #679
throwaway851 wrote: post #590

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Another way to look at it is that Apple is making it harder to run the system in an insecure fashion. You may not agree with that decision, but I certainly appreciate how Apple is looking out for the safety and security of the user. Tangent: as much as some developers hate that the only way to distribute apps for the iPhone is through the App Store, as a user I consider that walled garden of apps to be a real securit…

Another way to look at it is that Apple is moving towards a future where all software for the mac must be purchased from the app store. Bubye Apple, my next machine will likely be a Dell Ubuntu.

Mine is already about to be a Linux workstation since, in addition to all the developer hostility the past few years, Catalina essentially killed off Mac gaming (something like 75% of Mac games are 32 bit? or something?). Prior to that it was merely a joke, but it was nice to have an occasional game to play. Now? Nope, Apple Store and recently updated game code or GTFO

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by jfkebwjsbx »

pmarreck wrote: post #708
xvector wrote: post #650

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no excuse for this except for sheer, utter incompetence. Everyone involved in writing and shipping this should be ashamed of themselves.

There’s going to be a big exodus of open source developers going to Linux-powered platforms instead of the standard Mac laptop because of this ridiculousness

> the standard Mac laptop

There is nothing standard about a Mac laptop, both technically and in market share.

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by pietrovismara »

amatecha wrote: post #687
zanethomas wrote: post #679

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another way to look at it is that Apple is moving towards a future where all software for the mac must be purchased from the app store. Bubye Apple, my next machine will likely be a Dell Ubuntu.

Yeah, this is the future I've been foreseeing for years. Every new OS update just ever so slightly decreases your ability to control what software is on your device, and how you can use it. For example, you used to be able to back up your purchased iOS apps to your computer, and restore them from your computer. In one iOS update (9 IIRC?), they removed the ability to back up the apps from your phone. In a later iOS/i…

If I may ask, why do you still persist with apple products then? Sounds like masochism from here...

Re: MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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Post by dahfizz »

davidvartan wrote: post #5

> a degraded user experience, as the first time a user runs a new executable, Apple delays execution while waiting for a reply from their server. The way to avoid this behavior is to staple the notarization ticket to your bundle (or dmg/pkg), i.e. "/usr/bin/stapler staple ." Otherwise, Gatekeeper will fetch the ticket and staple it for the user on the first run. (I'm the author of xcnotary [1], a tool to make notariz…

The way to avoid this behavior is to not buy a machine from a company that actively hates it's users.
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