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Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by ccktlmazeltov »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #22
latchkey wrote: post #10

Oh nice! I just bought Quest over the weekend from a guy off craigslist who was selling them at cost and still wrapped in plastic. Fantastically impressed with things. Totally worth the $500. The games are amazing, but what is really impressing me is all the vr video content. The ability to "stand" on a stage while the orchestra plays Mozart all around you is mind blowing. It is neat to see them pushing the boundarie…

The Quest is probably the first thing I've bought in a long time that has given me that "Christmas morning" feeling. It's such an impressive piece of tech, and VR without wires is so much more immersive, even if it limits the graphical capabilities

Same, the last time I had that feeling was when I opened up my N64 and played super mario 64. A slap in the face.

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by Impossible »

sytse wrote: post #27

With hand tracking they mean finger tracking, seeing you 'click' with your index finger and thumb. The Oculus has hand tracking today via controllers already.

They mean handtracking. Oculus touch is a tracked controller, which means the controller is tracked and the tracking system has no concept of a hand. You could put the controller on your foot, or the floor or on your dog and it would track in the same way as your hand. Hand tracking uses computer vision to recognize hands, for most humans fingers are included in that

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by shafyy »

gegtik wrote: post #5

I really want to know why this is feasible for the Quest but not the Rift S, given that both have Inside-Out tracking (ie. IR cameras mounted on the headset). In fact, the Rift S has 5 cameras to the Quests's 4 so it should be at least as capable shouldn't it?

I would be suprised if it's primarily a technological reason.

My thinking is: The Rift S is 99.99% used for "serious" gaming and PCVR will always be that way. For serious gaming you'll probably need some kind of controllers for the near future, since you want that fidelity and haptic feedback. Now, controllers could be replaced some day by braceletes or what not, but this is not going to happen next year.

The Quest and its successors (i.e. stand-alone VR), on the other hand, is and will be more and more used for lighter gaming, video, browsing, productivity, fitness, social etc. Often times, hand-tracking will be enough without the need for controllers.

Therefore, they focus their resources on bringing hand-tracking only to the Quest.

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by whoisjuan »

nkurz wrote: post #8

Does the Hand Tracking API allow for tracking other objects? In particular, could a long straight object be tracked as a pointer based on tracking two points along its axis? This seems like it would be computationally easier than tracking hands, and would open up a lot of possibilities for using real world objects as props within the VR environment.

Objects would create occlusion which will block the camera from being capable to track finger vectors.

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by ccktlmazeltov »

gegtik wrote: post #5

I really want to know why this is feasible for the Quest but not the Rift S, given that both have Inside-Out tracking (ie. IR cameras mounted on the headset). In fact, the Rift S has 5 cameras to the Quests's 4 so it should be at least as capable shouldn't it?

What's the point of a Rift since you can stream to your Quest now?

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Impossible wrote: post #32
sytse wrote: post #27

With hand tracking they mean finger tracking, seeing you 'click' with your index finger and thumb. The Oculus has hand tracking today via controllers already.

They mean handtracking. Oculus touch is a tracked controller, which means the controller is tracked and the tracking system has no concept of a hand. You could put the controller on your foot, or the floor or on your dog and it would track in the same way as your hand. Hand tracking uses computer vision to recognize hands, for most humans fingers are included in that

And Quest has that proper hand tracking already (had it for something like 5 months now), it's just been an experimental feature until now. I haven't used it much; for some reason the tracked hands seem to be placed lower than the fake hands when I'm using controllers, which makes the latter a better experience for me.

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by fra »

sytse wrote: post #27

With hand tracking they mean finger tracking, seeing you 'click' with your index finger and thumb. The Oculus has hand tracking today via controllers already.

We typically refer to the latter as "controller tracking" (ex-Oculus here).

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by mark_l_watson »

My Oculus Quest is the best toy that I have bought for myself in years, even more enjoyable since I did VR for SAIC and Disney about 20+ years ago, so super exciting to see such a fun low cost consumer VR device. I can’t wait to try a game/experience using hand tracking. Lot’s of great content, my favorites being the Darth Vader trilogy and the RX racket ball and ping pong games.

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by latchkey »

rubicon33 wrote: post #14
latchkey wrote: post #10

Oh nice! I just bought Quest over the weekend from a guy off craigslist who was selling them at cost and still wrapped in plastic. Fantastically impressed with things. Totally worth the $500. The games are amazing, but what is really impressing me is all the vr video content. The ability to "stand" on a stage while the orchestra plays Mozart all around you is mind blowing. It is neat to see them pushing the boundarie…

Props to the guy selling them at cost. Easily could have made an additional $50-$100 if he wanted to.

Yea, I was surprised. He had them in boxes that were clearly shipped from Best Buy. I asked if he got them cheaper and he said no. Didn't ask why he was selling them at cost, but I thought it was nice.

Re: Oculus: Hand Tracking Updates

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Post by Sevaris »

latchkey wrote: post #10

Oh nice! I just bought Quest over the weekend from a guy off craigslist who was selling them at cost and still wrapped in plastic. Fantastically impressed with things. Totally worth the $500. The games are amazing, but what is really impressing me is all the vr video content. The ability to "stand" on a stage while the orchestra plays Mozart all around you is mind blowing. It is neat to see them pushing the boundarie…

> vr video content. The ability to "stand" on a stage while the orchestra plays Mozart all around you is mind blowing.

So, uh, I've only watched porn so far. Got a link of that orchestra? Sounds cool.

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