We ought to block any know tools that a foreign government uses to spy on our citizens. They block everything of ours and anything that offers a different point of view.
We Chat, They Watch
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#112Don't you worry, the US pays in kind.
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#113Honestly curious: knowing what everyone knows, why would any person who is not of Chinese origin, use WeChat? What's the use case?
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Whether or not compromised, I am sure my messages on iMessage are not used to train censorship applications by the NSA. Messages on WeChat are used for censorship. I also, separately, think that in aggregate Apple has incentives to make iMessage secure. While Tencent has incentives to share WeChat data with CCP. These are among many reasons why the comparison was false equivalence. The world is not just black and whi…
> I am sure my messages on iMessage are not used to train censorship applications by the NSA What basis do you have for this certainty?
But your question is by nature setting up a false comparison. There is no observed censorship apparatus in place in the US. You can always pose "what if" scenarios about super classified efforts, but functionally there is no active system in place.
Compare this to the vastly-resourced, all-encompassing one operated openly and enthusiastically by the CCP.
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#116People are routinely jailed in china for sending messages on WeChat [0] [1] [2]... This has been going on almost on a daily basis since WeChat started... Did anyone think they weren't monitoring and censoring it? [0] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/jailed... [1] http://www.phayul.com/2020/03/22/42960/ [2] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/tech...
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To talk to friends or family that are in China.
> To talk to friends or family that are in China. I'm assuming you mean of not-Chinese origin, basically expats. Yes? Are there no other options? Are no non-Chinese messengers allowed in China?
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Thankfully the US isn't a communist dictatorship
Can you define the characteristics of a communist dictatorship that are relevant here? Not the economic ones per se, but the ones that make you nervous about spying and media control.