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Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

nsxwolf wrote: post #58
hombre_fatal wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's your gameplan for the rest of your life? You're never going to kiss anyone or share a cup or a smoke or any of the thousands of ways that have infected the vast majority of humanity? You can even get it passing through your mom's birth canal. Your two examples of transmission are so specific that I'm not sure you know how it spreads. Just extended family members kissing or sharing cups with your kids? What? He…

I'm in the second half of my life and I married an HSV-negative. I try not to put my mouth on sketchy things.

You both got blood tests for both types of HSV before you were married I assume?

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by ohyes »

01100011 wrote: post #43
forgot_again wrote: post #38

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Make sure you get 8 hours of sleep each night. Eat healthy. Exercise daily. Keep anxiety in check.

Yep. I had insomnia for a while but that seems to be in check now. I started intermittent fasting a few weeks ago. No big changes yet, but I'll see how it goes. I also started 750mg of NMN. I've been going back to my old supplement regimen since it seemed to work better for me(moderate dose of vitamins, ashwagandha, CDP choline, high-DHA fish oil, NAC). I tried eliminating a lot of them for several months but it just…

How have you been measuring your cognitive decline?

I have much shifted priorities from when I was in my 20s and was never that smart to begin with, so I’m note sure how I would even start to measure it.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by tengbretson »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #60
tengbretson wrote: post #42

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> This is a dangerous, hurtful opinion and you need to be downvoted. > No one is to be shamed for this virus. Don't care. If I'm going to get shamed for walking down the sidewalk without a mask then I sure as shit am going to shame an adult that kisses their child when they have an infectious sore on there face.

Or kisses their loved one when they are asymptomatic? The stigma around herpes is ridiculous.

Unrelated to the discussion at hand. Yes there is the possibility of asymptomatic transmission. The OP said no one should be shamed for this virus. I'm saying bullshit. If someone sneezes on you when they have the flu, yes, shame on them. If someone kisses their child when they have a herpetic sore, yes, shame on them.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

tengbretson wrote: post #64
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #60

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Or kisses their loved one when they are asymptomatic? The stigma around herpes is ridiculous.

Unrelated to the discussion at hand. Yes there is the possibility of asymptomatic transmission. The OP said no one should be shamed for this virus. I'm saying bullshit. If someone sneezes on you when they have the flu, yes, shame on them. If someone kisses their child when they have a herpetic sore, yes, shame on them.

Neither of those would be shamed for the virus, those would be shamed for being a jerk, exact same as not wearing a mask when you know you should.

Just like having Covid is nothing to be ashamed of, no one should be shamed for having cold sores.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by Gibbon1 »

vikramkr wrote: post #28
nostromo wrote: post #14

This is my primary concern with SARSCoV2. Seeing how HPV can manifest in cancer, how HSV-1 can lead to Alzheimer’s, or how VZV (chickenpox) can flare up later in life as Shingles. Edit: thanks for the helpful information below!

So far, the coronaviruses don't seem to establish latency in the same way that HPV does. And the chickenpox virus, VZV, is actually also a herpesvirus, along with the Epstein Barr virus and CMV (you might know them as mono), and all those viruses share the characteristics of having latent forms that persist and can re-emerge. While we need to keep our eyes open with SARS-COV-2, especially on cases of potential re-eme…

Little I've gleaned, HPV is a DNA virus. Those can easily become latent. Where coronaviruses are RNA viruses which don't appear too. A couple of conronavirurs cause mild colds they don't appear to stick around. So you would assume SARS-COV2 to behave the same way.

Also the flu is a segmented RNA virus. The RNA is composed of segments. Which allows it to mutate by shuffling those segments with other strains. Including zoonotic strains. Coronaviruses have a single RNA strand and so don't shuffle.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by tengbretson »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #65
tengbretson wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unrelated to the discussion at hand. Yes there is the possibility of asymptomatic transmission. The OP said no one should be shamed for this virus. I'm saying bullshit. If someone sneezes on you when they have the flu, yes, shame on them. If someone kisses their child when they have a herpetic sore, yes, shame on them.

Neither of those would be shamed for the virus, those would be shamed for being a jerk, exact same as not wearing a mask when you know you should. Just like having Covid is nothing to be ashamed of, no one should be shamed for having cold sores.

Then all you're doing is making a distinction so that you can defend against a position nobody in this conversation was taking. Look through the thread. Is anyone making the case that the mere existence of the virus in a person is worthy of scorn? Or are all of the people you are bothering to make counter points to condemning those that carelessly transmit it? An act that you yourself claimed made someone a "jerk."

It sounds to me like we are actually in agreement in practice, but that you want to use this as a spot to argue against a straw man with weak platitudes.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by vikramkr »

Gibbon1 wrote: post #66
vikramkr wrote: post #28

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So far, the coronaviruses don't seem to establish latency in the same way that HPV does. And the chickenpox virus, VZV, is actually also a herpesvirus, along with the Epstein Barr virus and CMV (you might know them as mono), and all those viruses share the characteristics of having latent forms that persist and can re-emerge. While we need to keep our eyes open with SARS-COV-2, especially on cases of potential re-eme…

Little I've gleaned, HPV is a DNA virus. Those can easily become latent. Where coronaviruses are RNA viruses which don't appear too. A couple of conronavirurs cause mild colds they don't appear to stick around. So you would assume SARS-COV2 to behave the same way. Also the flu is a segmented RNA virus. The RNA is composed of segments. Which allows it to mutate by shuffling those segments with other strains. Including…

It's not necessarily an rna vs dna thing. HIV is an rna virus and notoriously goes latent.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by nickff »

ianai wrote: post #63
Grazester wrote: post #39

I wonder if people above 60 should then start taking acyclovir if the have the virus in their system, as a potential preventative? They should do a study on this.

Quick google does that’s been investigated

It looks like there are some ongoing studies:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32034019

https://www.nia.nih.gov/alzheimers/clinical-trials/valacyclo...

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by benibela »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #55
nsxwolf wrote: post #41

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Not letting family members kiss your kids on the mouth and not letting your kids use other people's cups/forks etc? If the entire population did this there would be fewer herpes infections. edit: the downvotes are interesting. If I had made the statement "We can take steps to reduce COVID-19 transmission" I can't imagine I'd get the same result. I can only assume that people really are ashamed of having herpes and ar…

What's your gameplan for the rest of your life? You're never going to kiss anyone or share a cup or a smoke or any of the thousands of ways that have infected the vast majority of humanity? You can even get it passing through your mom's birth canal. Your two examples of transmission are so specific that I'm not sure you know how it spreads. Just extended family members kissing or sharing cups with your kids? What? He…

>You're never going to kiss anyone or share a cup or a smoke or any of the thousands of ways that have infected the vast majority of humanity?

Sounds reasonable

I am 30 and have never kissed anyone, and no plans to change that soon. Although I had some shared cups. I probably should get tested. But there is a good change I have avoided all herpes, even EBV. I hope they can find a vaccine soon.

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