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Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by nsxwolf »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #30
weiming wrote: post #19

HSV always seemed particularly poorly understood in the society to me, e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family, and the benign branding of "cold sore" as if it is related to a cold. Given that the vaccine for 1 or 2 has proved to be extremely challenging, always wondered if the public simply being more well-informed on this topic could help reduce the incidence in the popu…

> e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family Puhleeze. HSV is present in the majority of the population. Branding parents as "careless" because their children get it is ridiculous.

Not letting family members kiss your kids on the mouth and not letting your kids use other people's cups/forks etc? If the entire population did this there would be fewer herpes infections.

edit: the downvotes are interesting. If I had made the statement "We can take steps to reduce COVID-19 transmission" I can't imagine I'd get the same result. I can only assume that people really are ashamed of having herpes and are reacting emotionally.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by tengbretson »

echelon wrote: post #40
weiming wrote: post #19

HSV always seemed particularly poorly understood in the society to me, e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family, and the benign branding of "cold sore" as if it is related to a cold. Given that the vaccine for 1 or 2 has proved to be extremely challenging, always wondered if the public simply being more well-informed on this topic could help reduce the incidence in the popu…

> careless parents/extended family > benign branding of "cold sore" This is a dangerous, hurtful opinion and you need to be downvoted. No one is to be shamed for this virus. A third of teenagers will acquire HSV-1 during childhood from simply putting things into their mouths. There is no way to prevent this sort of transmission. [1] Most of the world's population has the virus. [2] Given these odds, you probably have…

> This is a dangerous, hurtful opinion and you need to be downvoted.

> No one is to be shamed for this virus.

Don't care. If I'm going to get shamed for walking down the sidewalk without a mask then I sure as shit am going to shame an adult that kisses their child when they have an infectious sore on there face.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by 01100011 »

forgot_again wrote: post #38
01100011 wrote: post #34

I am very curious to see where this research goes. At the risk of sounding like an absolute nut-case, I've been experiencing significant cognitive decline since getting divorced and becoming sexually active. Granted, I went through a traumatic experience(divorce), developed sleep apnea(treated for ~2 years), and am in my mid-40s, so my concerns are probably unfounded. That said, I've had my apnea under control for so…

Make sure you get 8 hours of sleep each night. Eat healthy. Exercise daily. Keep anxiety in check.

Yep. I had insomnia for a while but that seems to be in check now. I started intermittent fasting a few weeks ago. No big changes yet, but I'll see how it goes. I also started 750mg of NMN. I've been going back to my old supplement regimen since it seemed to work better for me(moderate dose of vitamins, ashwagandha, CDP choline, high-DHA fish oil, NAC). I tried eliminating a lot of them for several months but it just seemed to accelerate the decline.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by velosol »

DocG wrote: post #18
toomuchtodo wrote: post #2

Big if true! This would mean that just as the Gardasil 9 vaccine prevents HPV, which leads to almost all forms of cervical cancer [1] (as well as others), a vaccine for HSV-1 might prevent someone from developing Alzheimer's later in life. There are HSV-2 vaccines in clinical trials [2], but I'm unaware of any HSV-1 vaccines as far along. Please chime in if you are aware! [1] https://www.nccc-online.org/hpvcervical-c…

There is correlation between zoster vaccine and herpes simplex. This has correlation to lesser the outbreaks or make them stop altogether. I can attest to that. This is what some specialist doctors recommend for patient with bad herpes outbreaks. I guess this would be already good starting point. Example source (pdf): https://proceedings.med.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/...

Have you intentionally exposed yourself to your previous triggers (assuming you had them)?

How long has it been since you had the zoster vaccine?

Were you of an on-label age for the zoster vaccine at receipt or was it off-label usage? Put another way did you receive Varivax or Zostavax dosing and were you in the on-label group (1-50 for Varivax and 50+ for Zostavax)?

The data isn't great but there's a fair bit of anecdata as you report and in your link that suggests there might be some protection against HSV from the VZV vaccines, possibly based on genetics or age of recipients.

Also your link was broken for me but the below might work.

https://proceedings.med.ucla.edu/index.php/2016/03/10/varice...

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by [deleted] »

echelon wrote: post #40
weiming wrote: post #19

HSV always seemed particularly poorly understood in the society to me, e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family, and the benign branding of "cold sore" as if it is related to a cold. Given that the vaccine for 1 or 2 has proved to be extremely challenging, always wondered if the public simply being more well-informed on this topic could help reduce the incidence in the popu…

> careless parents/extended family > benign branding of "cold sore" This is a dangerous, hurtful opinion and you need to be downvoted. No one is to be shamed for this virus. A third of teenagers will acquire HSV-1 during childhood from simply putting things into their mouths. There is no way to prevent this sort of transmission. [1] Most of the world's population has the virus. [2] Given these odds, you probably have…

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Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by lostapathy »

nsxwolf wrote: post #41
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family Puhleeze. HSV is present in the majority of the population. Branding parents as "careless" because their children get it is ridiculous.

Not letting family members kiss your kids on the mouth and not letting your kids use other people's cups/forks etc? If the entire population did this there would be fewer herpes infections. edit: the downvotes are interesting. If I had made the statement "We can take steps to reduce COVID-19 transmission" I can't imagine I'd get the same result. I can only assume that people really are ashamed of having herpes and ar…

If you can figure out a way to get a 3 year old to care about what utensils they use or who's cake they finish, you're probably on track to solve even bigger problems than this!

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by nsxwolf »

lostapathy wrote: post #47
nsxwolf wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not letting family members kiss your kids on the mouth and not letting your kids use other people's cups/forks etc? If the entire population did this there would be fewer herpes infections. edit: the downvotes are interesting. If I had made the statement "We can take steps to reduce COVID-19 transmission" I can't imagine I'd get the same result. I can only assume that people really are ashamed of having herpes and ar…

If you can figure out a way to get a 3 year old to care about what utensils they use or who's cake they finish, you're probably on track to solve even bigger problems than this!

You can't prevent 100% of infections. We could do a whole lot better than we're doing now. Getting rid of the moniker "cold sore" would be a great start.

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by leephillips »

echelon wrote: post #40
weiming wrote: post #19

HSV always seemed particularly poorly understood in the society to me, e.g. with many people getting it as children due to careless parents/extended family, and the benign branding of "cold sore" as if it is related to a cold. Given that the vaccine for 1 or 2 has proved to be extremely challenging, always wondered if the public simply being more well-informed on this topic could help reduce the incidence in the popu…

> careless parents/extended family > benign branding of "cold sore" This is a dangerous, hurtful opinion and you need to be downvoted. No one is to be shamed for this virus. A third of teenagers will acquire HSV-1 during childhood from simply putting things into their mouths. There is no way to prevent this sort of transmission. [1] Most of the world's population has the virus. [2] Given these odds, you probably have…

On the other hand...https://lee-phillips.org/isrealPediatrics/

Re: Using human brain tissue in lab, researchers show herpes link to Alzheimer’s

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Post by darawk »

clircle wrote: post #46

I do not like headlines that say 'scientists show link between x and y'. It sounds too causal. Rather, journalists should try to write 'scientists observed x correlates with y'

They didn't observe a correlation, though. They observed Herpes causing Alzheimers lesions in vitro.
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