YouTube removed a viral video of two doctors calling for an end to quarantine

Post by btilly » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 3:26 AM UTC

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Did you watch the video? That is not what they did. What you're describing is a brief anecdote they shared about what they were seeing on the ground. Their statistics are based on state level aggregates for New York and California.

State level data is collected using the exact same methods. In many places people with symptoms are told to self isolate until they have difficulty breathing etc. This makes state level data a highly biased sample. There are a few population studies for very specific areas, but no widespread statewide sampling anywhere. PS: The US has ~50,000 Coronavirus deaths. Assuming a very optimistic mortality rate of 0.5% sugge…

Post by olliej » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 3:28 AM UTC

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That would mean compelling them to host all content, including child pornography and calls to commit terrorism. That is clearly nonsense. The CDA doesn’t say “in order to not be liable you must host everything regardless of what it is” it allows you to host potentially anything that is uploaded without being considered directly liable for that (which would be far more censorious)

No Platdforms still have to delete illegal content and react to take down notices.

Post by reagank » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 3:28 AM UTC

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But that misses the point. The very fact that a few people at Google/Youtube have the power to censor whomever they want for whatever reason they choose is a problem in itself. Are the doctors in the video saying untruths or misrepresenting data? I think what they said in the video was eminently reasonable. But perhaps I'm wrong. Luckily we have the freedom to publicly critique their claims - assuming our critiques a…

To those who support YouTube removing these vids: Without remarking on the quality of the video in this specific instance I will note that Dr. John Campbell's videos were contradicting WHO advice while WHO was asleep at the wheel. By the current standards, would they have been removed?

Post by briefcomment » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 3:31 AM UTC

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This is interesting. I'm a little confused though. Life expectancy has been on a consistent decline for the last few years, particularly in the US. On top of the declining life expectancy, there should presumably be more people dying as a result of a growing population. In the graphs, they show multiple years. Why do weekly deaths from the last several years, broken out by year, basically look the same?

It's gone from 78.8 to 78.5 for males over the last few years, most people think due primarily to the opioid epidemic. And the population of NYC is barely growing, maybe a percent or two a year. These factors you mention aren't even in the same neighborhood as being large enough to explain the data you're reacting to. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SPDYNLE00INUSA

Post by McGlockenshire » Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 3:32 AM UTC

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It's not a case of right or left leaning bias here - Glenn Beck pushes conspiracy theories and things that just aren't true. There's a difference between political leanings and full on crackpot journalism.

Examples?