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Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by bproven »

thedevelopnik wrote: post #58
cmurphycode wrote: post #40

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I'm on the hunt for my next laptop and I'd really like to have a rock solid portable that runs Linux, but my past experience with Dell indicates inferior hardware and construction to Mac. I looked at the 2020 Macbook Air (the $~1300 model), and it seems to offer the same or better specs (depending how much you value the display) for the price. Are we at the point where we must pay a premium NOT to run OSX, or am I mi…

https://www.system76.com

are the system76s better? I heard the hw was kinda iffy (crap) in the past. One of the reason I decided against it about 2 years abgo when I bought my Lenovo X1 carbon (for Linux).

The Lemur looks interesting (nice you can get it with more than 16GB RAM in 14")... wonder how the quality is on it though

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by ressetera »

noisem4ker wrote: post #121
ressetera wrote: post #52

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I don't have a clear image of how Docker behaves on Mac, but I had wasted a whole day trying to make it work on Windows WSL. I'd suggest you virtualize a normal Linux host on your machine (under VMware for example) and run Docker there.

I'm almost certain you already read this guide [1], so I ask: where did it fail you? It definitely wasn't straightforward, but I managed to get it working fine in a couple of hours (Windows 10 1903, WSL 1, Ubuntu 16.04). [1] https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/setting-up-docker-for-windows...

If I'm not mistaken, I hadn't many issues installing docker on WSL.

The problems started when I docker-compose up'd a pretty basic nginx-php-mariadb stack.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by yadco »

veidr wrote: post #43
pansa2 wrote: post #13

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Do the latest Macs still support running Windows via Boot Camp? What would you recommend if I need to run both Linux and Windows alongside MacOS? Virtualisation? Or would I be better off using more than one machine?

Yes, absolutely virtualization works so much better. In fact you can boot Mac and run VMWare Fusion, or boot into Windows 10 and use either Windows Subsystem for Linux or VMWare Workstation, and you will have a pretty great experience with Linux. OTOH if you try to install Linux on any recent MacBook Pro, you are in for hours and hours of googling weird shit with like only 2 comments on forums you have never heard of…

You can get a license key on eBay.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by yadco »

3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #87

> Using Etcher to create bootable USB drive. For such a technical post, I’m surprised this is the recommendation. There are a million ways to copy the iso to the usb drive and make it bootable. The easiest in my opinion is: cat Ubuntu.iso > /dev/disk

And then overwrite your operating system. The main feature of etcher is that you can burn an operating system without worrying that you could brick your machine.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by theonemind »

insideBig3 wrote: post #44
Sangeppato wrote: post #38

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Yeah I don't get it either. Without macOS, a MacBook doesn't make any sense IMHO

This is why I can't understand the appeal of a MacBook. You have the Apple burden, the Apple costs, what benefits? The touchpad? The showoff luxury of a lighted logo?

I think Apple's target audience has the money to spare, so to understand, first just compare the machines and forget about the price. People also don't buy Apple as a gaming platform,and Apple buyers don't care much about performance/$ comparatively speaking, so they don't care much about performance, either. You probably care about price and performance and find that hard to grasp, but I land in the camp that (to some degree) does not care about price or performance.

So, setting aside the price and performance, compare the machines setting those aside. Most other machines feel clunky by comparison. I bought an XPS 15 and had audio driver issues. The fans blow out of the bottom, which seems pretty lame for having a laptop, say, on your lap. It has a lame plastic flexy feel compared to a MacBook. A lot of people mention the XPS line as an alternative to the Macs, but I bought one to leave the Mac ecosystem, and it felt so clunky that I still just went ahead and bought another Mac after that.

So, I really think it makes perfect sense if the price and performance don't much concern you.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by [deleted] »

jeremyjh wrote: post #107
aguyfromnb wrote: post #36

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> You directly implied that people are buying Apple products for the logo. Apple makes kick-ass machines, but I see Macbook Pros everywhere . How many people in the real world need a $2000+ computer? If these people aren't buying it for the logo, what are they buying it for? Apple has positioned themselves as a lifestyle brand. How can you deny that?

This thread is on Hacker News. Programmers have very legitimate reasons to buy MBPs, just read this thread.

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Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by mindfulhack »

Dunedan wrote: post #6

I used MacBooks with Linux starting in 2006 till the end of last year. That's when I finally gave up. I really love the hardware Apple produces, but we're at a point where I believe it's not feasible anymore to use Linux on MacBooks. For the MacBook Pros 2016 and up I put significant effort into trying to get mainline Linux running as smoothly as possible by documenting and coordinating the efforts to have drivers fo…

I can see it's been a long and slow painful journey of getting it to work on modern MBPs, and I want to thank you for the consistent work you've put into this quest which many of us are following and benefiting from.

I've seen that github go from quite a hopeless situation, to a surprisingly complete amount of things working, under your watch.

I do agree with your assessment that the ARM future isn't looking good, but I'm still hopeful, and we really won't know until people try it out. Many of us, like me don't need all features working e.g. I can do without WiFi if need be, so I don't feel as defeated as you, due to having not as complete a goal set.

I urge you to put a clear message at the top of the github about your current status of involvement. It may encourage others to step up and take the reins for a while? You've done an amazing job, maybe a break is in order!

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by mixmastamyk »

ngrilly wrote: post #79
heelix wrote: post #35

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The screen and the track pad are the best out there. From a coding perspective, the Mac is one of the few 16:10 ratio screens still out there, which means you get a bit more vertical height than 99% of the other 16:9 ratio resolutions. While 16:9 makes for better movie watching, coding/surfing/etc is far better on the taller screen. As a bonus, it is a really quality screen too. I'm less enamored with the rest. My da…

Looks like the new XPS 13 has a 16:10 ratio screen :)

When the 15 comes out, I’m buying.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by MonaroVXR »

veidr wrote: post #43
pansa2 wrote: post #13

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Do the latest Macs still support running Windows via Boot Camp? What would you recommend if I need to run both Linux and Windows alongside MacOS? Virtualisation? Or would I be better off using more than one machine?

Yes, absolutely virtualization works so much better. In fact you can boot Mac and run VMWare Fusion, or boot into Windows 10 and use either Windows Subsystem for Linux or VMWare Workstation, and you will have a pretty great experience with Linux. OTOH if you try to install Linux on any recent MacBook Pro, you are in for hours and hours of googling weird shit with like only 2 comments on forums you have never heard of…

Wait a minute, I can run Windows, MacOS and Linux on the same machine with VMware Workstation. I run MacOS in a VM. The same goes for Linux and Windows.

So you don't need a MacBook or an iMac to run MacOS.

Re: Install Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on MacBookPro14,1

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Post by MonaroVXR »

0xff00ffee wrote: post #80
veidr wrote: post #43

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Yes, absolutely virtualization works so much better. In fact you can boot Mac and run VMWare Fusion, or boot into Windows 10 and use either Windows Subsystem for Linux or VMWare Workstation, and you will have a pretty great experience with Linux. OTOH if you try to install Linux on any recent MacBook Pro, you are in for hours and hours of googling weird shit with like only 2 comments on forums you have never heard of…

I run multiple OSes as part of my job. The small investment in VMWare Fusion was worth it but I still need some dedicated machines. I just have a few issues: Problem #1: Disk space requirements. I have a late 2013 MBP and windows gobbles up a min 60GB for the image, which is 1/4th my SDD. This is why I ended up buying cheap beige boxes for every other OS (or AWS). Problem #2: Clipboard on VMWare is a trainwreck. Same…

You can buy an Windows or Linux "computer" and run MacOS in a virtualmachine. VMWare Workstation is great for it. You can do it also with Virtualbox or KVM. But the latter doesn't have "hardware acceleration" support.
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